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Re: Firefox 39.0 released

#11
> Disable use of RC4 except for temporarily whitelisted hosts

This is the one which has the greatest chance of giving people a headache. For instance, one of the biggest banks here still uses only RC4 for its online banking site. Its top-level hostname and a few of its auxiliary hostnames are on the whitelist, but there's no guarantee that all the RC4-only auxiliary hostnames it might use for some of its functionality are on the whitelist.

Re: Firefox 39.0 released

#13
post #8

Surprised by the inclusion of "CSS Scroll Snap Points": https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/scroll-snap... It basically allows to do scroll hijacking [1] without any JavaScript, just like this: http://blog.gospodarets.com/demos/scroll-snap-full-screen/ [1]: http://trentwalton.com/2013/10/23/scroll-hijacking/

As much as the effect can be irritating, Firefox lets you over-scroll before snapping which is a much better experience compared to that fallback jQuery plugin.

Re: Firefox 39.0 released

#14

If you're wondering what "unicode 8 skin-tone emoji" is about, here you go: http://unicode.org/reports/tr51/#Diversity Hmmmm, I'm on ff 40.0a2 and they don't render for me: http://emojipedia.org/man-with-dark-brown-skin-tone/

You’ll need to have a font installed that supports them, Firefox does not bundle fonts for emoji ;)

Re: Firefox 39.0 released

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post #3

How much does Project Silk improves scrolling performance? Can you "feel" it? Scrolling/motion performance is the only thing that is keeping me away from FF at the moment - Even dev tools are getting amazingly good.

I'm on ff 40 (developer edition), so presumably I've been running project silk for a while now, and for me the scrolling is visually indistinguishable from chrome. The difference is in the inertia: chrome slows to a halt marginally more smoothly, and it does that thing where you can elastically scroll past the end of the page.

The increased smoothness of the inertial model probably indicates that chrome's scrolling is actually better, repaints more closely aligned to vsync or whatever, but like I say there are no actual artifacts, tearing etc. visible on my macbook retina. If you've got a top of the line 120fps gaming monitor its probably more noticeable.

That fancy lcd-testing website probably has some way of measuring it.

For me the big issue is the lack of visual feedback when swiping left and right to go back and forward. In chrome/safari you get a big sliding animation to tell you you're triggering the gesture correctly. In FF you just get an arrow after the gesture has been triggered, when its just annoying visual clutter. This means it still sometimes takes me multiple attempts to hit it, because I don't have that feedback during the gesture to cement the muscle memory.

EDIT: apparently chrome gives you the arrow, ff gives you absolutely nothing.

Re: Firefox 39.0 released

#16
post #6
post #3

How much does Project Silk improves scrolling performance? Can you "feel" it? Scrolling/motion performance is the only thing that is keeping me away from FF at the moment - Even dev tools are getting amazingly good.

For what it's worth, I've just updated on OS X and scrolling feels just as janky as ever.

Same here. But I'll keep using Firefox because I cant stand what Chrome is doing with my cpu/memory/privacy and I want to keep Safari (the less 'usable' browser) for work related stuff and Firefox for personal ones, on another desktop space.

Re: Firefox 39.0 released

#17
post #8

Surprised by the inclusion of "CSS Scroll Snap Points": https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/scroll-snap... It basically allows to do scroll hijacking [1] without any JavaScript, just like this: http://blog.gospodarets.com/demos/scroll-snap-full-screen/ [1]: http://trentwalton.com/2013/10/23/scroll-hijacking/

People experimented with new ways of handling user input (as they have for decades), found that it was a good way to layout some pages, and then complained to browser vendors that doing it in JS sucks. CSS snap points is just a way to make the experience better for developers and users. That's exactly how the Web should work.

Personally I think CSS is "style hijacking" — the Web really is about the text, not the colors.

Re: Firefox 39.0 released

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If you're wondering what "unicode 8 skin-tone emoji" is about, here you go: http://unicode.org/reports/tr51/#Diversity Hmmmm, I'm on ff 40.0a2 and they don't render for me: http://emojipedia.org/man-with-dark-brown-skin-tone/

If i ever go to hell i know what my punishment will be - implement unicode
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