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The Storage Tipping Point

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Re: The Storage Tipping Point

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Wait till memresistors get here. That will basically eliminate the distinction between ram and disk.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memristor#1808

"They can potentially be fashioned into non-volatile solid-state memory, which would allow greater data density than hard drives with access times similar to DRAM, replacing both components.[14] HP prototyped a crossbar latch memory that can fit 100 gigabits in a square centimeter,[8] and proposed a scalable 3D design (consisting of up to 1000 layers or 1 petabit per cm3).[66] "

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#13

I think the storage company Nimble may have figured this out.

What makes you think they have? Do you have a blog post or statistical data that supports this notion? Please, share!

Not yet but the rep is taking us to the big game— a fully catered private box. I'm sure I'll hear about it there.

Re: The Storage Tipping Point

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Wait till memresistors get here. That will basically eliminate the distinction between ram and disk. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memristor#1808 "They can potentially be fashioned into non-volatile solid-state memory, which would allow greater data density than hard drives with access times similar to DRAM, replacing both components.[14] HP prototyped a crossbar latch memory that can fit 100 gigabits in a square cen…

HP indefinitely postponed (canceled) memristors recently.

Re: The Storage Tipping Point

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Yup, storage is going to change a lot. RAID is nearly dead. That means a whole lot of failure detection and correction needs to be reimplemented elsewhere in the stack. We'll also need to build storage layers that can deal with the crazy performance profile of SMR hard drives (at least, until SSD's are cheaper).

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#17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also worth noting is that IBM i had one of (if not probably the) first implementation of containers, in the form of LPARs.

True. Add that many "inventions" in virtualization field were in VM/370 in... the 70's. Including running itself on itself which has been celebrated in several news articles for different prototypes over the past few years. Except that was a production system. ;)

Add that IBM tried to kill VM multiple times, and wanted everyone using System/360 to standardize around OS/360.

"The Mythical Man-Month" is the story of OS/360. Hence VM still exists.

Re: The Storage Tipping Point

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Good to see Robin Harris' article on the front page of HN (we live in the same small town and a mutual friend introduced us). A little off topic from the article: I think the biggest tipping point is the decreasing cost of cloud storage because large companies like Google do so much of their time critical processing with data in RAM (spread over many servers) and these servers can re-purpose a lot of their disk I/O c…

Can't believe I've seen two people from there on the same day on HN! Flabbergasted. Grew up there, currently living just up the rim. Re: your comment, I'm curious to see how the I/O capacity of those servers could be distributed for cloud storage. I would imagine that even with 10Gbps if those machines are really cranking, they could have a difficult time provisioning network I/O for a storage service.

Email me when you will be in Sedona and we can have coffee. I can contact Robin to see if he is available.

re: I/O capacity: I was commenting on how Google, etc. can provide such inexpensive cloud storage, not access speed.

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I think the storage company Nimble may have figured this out.

Nope. Nimble use a log storage format similar to that of Netapp and ZFS.

Their performance special source is using the minimum amount of flash to provide a performance boost over standard HDDs.

They also have very nice analytics.

They are good for VMware/virtualisation. For general file storage, unless they have changed recently, is pretty mediocre.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What makes you think they have? Do you have a blog post or statistical data that supports this notion? Please, share!

Not yet but the rep is taking us to the big game— a fully catered private box. I'm sure I'll hear about it there.

So their prices are for storage and the big game. Big sales seems so wasteful.
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