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The Real Lesson of the Stanford Prison Experiment

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Re: The Real Lesson of the Stanford Prison Experiment

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This is an interesting angle to further understand the Stanford Prison Experiment. IwasA Guard in the 1971 Stanford Prison Experiment. AMA! Quote- "I felt that Zimbardo had a conclusion and he constructed "an experiment" to demonstrate it. That was my belief at the time and now." http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2y5sbt/iwasa_guard_in_...

The inability of the answerer there to see the experiment as being (at least in part) about how the guards responded to the construct is just fascinating.

Re: The Real Lesson of the Stanford Prison Experiment

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It's atrociously bad science. It's not worthwhile to talk about what it means. I appreciated the BBC anecdote as well as the research about the advertisement's phrasing, but trying to interpret it at all is irresponsible pop science wiring. Briefly: http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3025

Exactly. There was nothing valuable derived from this study, except perhaps as a lesson on how not to allocate research funds. Terrible experimental design. Bias everywhere.

Re: The Real Lesson of the Stanford Prison Experiment

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Professor Zimbardo created a tyrannical environment and found "proof" that humans were innately tyrannical. Right.

As this article suggests, but doesn't quite state openly: the Stanford Prison Experiment says as much about Zimbardo's psyche as it does about human nature.

Re: The Real Lesson of the Stanford Prison Experiment

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For me, the most interesting part of the experiment was how it was ended. A moral person objected. That's a real lesson in leadership.

Wikipedia: "Zimbardo aborted the experiment early when Christina Maslach, a graduate student in psychology whom he was dating (and later married),[14] objected to the conditions of the prison after she was introduced to the experiment to conduct interviews. Zimbardo noted that, of more than fifty people who had observed the experiment, Maslach was the only one who questioned its morality."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment

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>Those who thought that they would be participating in a prison study had significantly higher levels of aggressiveness, authoritarianism, Machiavellianism, narcissism, and social dominance, and they scored lower on measures of empathy and altruism. So the experiment suffered from the same sort of selection bias that goes into hiring for prison guards or other authoritative punitive figures? Seems pretty realistic to…

Absolutely. The problem, however, is that the experiment has been used in popular culture to make broader statements about other social settings.

Re: The Real Lesson of the Stanford Prison Experiment

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>Those who thought that they would be participating in a prison study had significantly higher levels of aggressiveness, authoritarianism, Machiavellianism, narcissism, and social dominance, and they scored lower on measures of empathy and altruism. So the experiment suffered from the same sort of selection bias that goes into hiring for prison guards or other authoritative punitive figures? Seems pretty realistic to…

The article explicitly mentions that point and discusses the implications in the conclusion.

Re: The Real Lesson of the Stanford Prison Experiment

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For me, the most interesting part of the experiment was how it was ended. A moral person objected. That's a real lesson in leadership. Wikipedia: "Zimbardo aborted the experiment early when Christina Maslach, a graduate student in psychology whom he was dating (and later married),[14] objected to the conditions of the prison after she was introduced to the experiment to conduct interviews. Zimbardo noted that, of mor…

So being the absolute pessimist here, did he suggest that she speak up? Since he was the ultimate authority? Or did it happen as stated. Absolute power corrupts absolutely and history is repeated.

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For me, the most interesting part of the experiment was how it was ended. A moral person objected. That's a real lesson in leadership. Wikipedia: "Zimbardo aborted the experiment early when Christina Maslach, a graduate student in psychology whom he was dating (and later married),[14] objected to the conditions of the prison after she was introduced to the experiment to conduct interviews. Zimbardo noted that, of mor…

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Re: The Real Lesson of the Stanford Prison Experiment

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For me, the most interesting part of the experiment was how it was ended. A moral person objected. That's a real lesson in leadership. Wikipedia: "Zimbardo aborted the experiment early when Christina Maslach, a graduate student in psychology whom he was dating (and later married),[14] objected to the conditions of the prison after she was introduced to the experiment to conduct interviews. Zimbardo noted that, of mor…

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