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“Houston, We've Had a Problem” (1975)

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Re: “Houston, We've Had a Problem” (1975)

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Do people put these background patterns behind text expressly to hamper legibility?

First thing I did was open inspector tools and delete that background attribute. Yes, it's an attribute - not a CSS property. We're talkin' early space age stuff here, remember.

There was a year or two where virtually the entire internet had flat gray backgrounds.

Those textured gray ones were a fancy new addition.

I'm old.

Re: “Houston, We've Had a Problem” (1975)

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Do people put these background patterns behind text expressly to hamper legibility?

According to a comment in the source, the page seems to be from 2001, when people didn't know better. Also look at that tell-tale footer!

> "when people didn't know better"

My god, what do you think 2001 was, the stone age?

Re: “Houston, We've Had a Problem” (1975)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to a comment in the source, the page seems to be from 2001, when people didn't know better. Also look at that tell-tale footer!

> "when people didn't know better" My god, what do you think 2001 was, the stone age?

When i hear "the startup bubble of 2001", I always take a moment to imagine what was a startup in 2001. I imagine an HTML 2 page with no Javascript and an ad banner at the top, inlined styles and tags... Like Altavista or Yahoo.

So in truth, what were webpages before 2006?

Re: “Houston, We've Had a Problem” (1975)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "when people didn't know better" My god, what do you think 2001 was, the stone age?

When i hear "the startup bubble of 2001", I always take a moment to imagine what was a startup in 2001. I imagine an HTML 2 page with no Javascript and an ad banner at the top, inlined styles and tags... Like Altavista or Yahoo. So in truth, what were webpages before 2006?

Wired, ca. 2001 https://web.archive.org/web/20011216025755/http://www.wired....

Re: “Houston, We've Had a Problem” (1975)

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Although 13 was quite a near-disaster, I'm surprised that there isn't just as much attention to how much 11 very nearly was a disaster too. During 11's descent to the moon the LEM's computer was overloaded and started throwing alarms. In addition Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin realized the craft overshot its intended landing spot and was heading for a field of rocks and boulders where landing would be impossible. Wha…

"In fact when they tried to test it on Earth, it very nearly killed him [...] Without Neil Armstrong Apollo 11 very likely would have ended with Richard Nixon reading this somber message"

Not necessarily. It can be argued that Neil Armstrong should have aborted the landing, rather than risk it with so little safety room.

After all, if he couldn't reliably do it on earth, how can you argue that it was purely his intelligence and attitude under pressure that got them on the moon, and not also a bit of luck?

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Although 13 was quite a near-disaster, I'm surprised that there isn't just as much attention to how much 11 very nearly was a disaster too. During 11's descent to the moon the LEM's computer was overloaded and started throwing alarms. In addition Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin realized the craft overshot its intended landing spot and was heading for a field of rocks and boulders where landing would be impossible. Wha…

I have read the selection process that was described in Lost Moon (the book of appolo 13). The NASA were literally recruiting superhumans back then. The smartest, healthiest, toughest and on on ... So I am not at all surprised that he managed to pull it off. https://www.countbayesie.com/blog/2015/2/18/hans-solo-and-ba...

And at the interview they could fly any spacecraft on a whiteboard.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "when people didn't know better" My god, what do you think 2001 was, the stone age?

When i hear "the startup bubble of 2001", I always take a moment to imagine what was a startup in 2001. I imagine an HTML 2 page with no Javascript and an ad banner at the top, inlined styles and tags... Like Altavista or Yahoo. So in truth, what were webpages before 2006?

My site is still pretty much as I originally had it in the mid to late 1990s: http://www.solipsys.co.uk

Didn't know better then, don't know better now. Still prefer content over style.

Re: “Houston, We've Had a Problem” (1975)

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I was honored to have dinner with Ken Mattingly a couple of years ago, and am looking forward to meeting Jim Lovell later this year. I've now met and talked with five Apollo era astronauts, and they are genuinely amazing. True gentlemen with wonderful stories, and self-deprecating. All amazingly skillful with hundreds of thousands of hours of technical training. And all different in their own way - all individuals.

And all slightly embarrassed because they were just doing their jobs, and little or no credit is given to the hundreds of thousands of people on the ground who did their jobs and made it possible.

Re: “Houston, We've Had a Problem” (1975)

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Although 13 was quite a near-disaster, I'm surprised that there isn't just as much attention to how much 11 very nearly was a disaster too. During 11's descent to the moon the LEM's computer was overloaded and started throwing alarms. In addition Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin realized the craft overshot its intended landing spot and was heading for a field of rocks and boulders where landing would be impossible. Wha…

There was no way Neil could have really prepared for a manual landing in the low gravity of the moon. In fact when they tried to test it on Earth, it very nearly killed him

That seems like an incomplete summary of the story. You're neglecting to mention all the successful flights Armstrong had in the LLRV, not to mention the successful training he received on its successor, the LLTV.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Landing_Research_Vehicle

I don't agree that it was "purely" Armstrong's intelligence and attitude that resulted in Apollo 11 success. He also received a great deal of relevant sophisticated training.

Re: “Houston, We've Had a Problem” (1975)

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Although 13 was quite a near-disaster, I'm surprised that there isn't just as much attention to how much 11 very nearly was a disaster too. During 11's descent to the moon the LEM's computer was overloaded and started throwing alarms. In addition Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin realized the craft overshot its intended landing spot and was heading for a field of rocks and boulders where landing would be impossible. Wha…

Note that if the Apollo flight software had been designed differently the Apollo 11 landing could easily have been unsuccessful or disastrous. Margaret Hamilton's work deserves a lot of credit for that, it was a very advanced and robust design for the time and for the resource constraints (4k of ram, etc.): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Hamilton_(scientist)#A...
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