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Firefox Bugzilla: Remove Pocket Integration

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Re: Firefox Bugzilla: Remove Pocket Integration

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Mozilla's recent integration with Pocket, a proprietary third-party service, is a mistake." This seems perfectly clear. The obvious improvement is to remove it. What is wrong with Mozilla at the moment?

I guess I'm just missing the point. The recommended action is to move Pocket to an extension that might even be shipped with the browser. I just don't see how it's different from "integrating" with the browser in that case. If the privacy implications were better explained and it was easier to disable, what would the problem be?

An extension can be removed completely. An integrated feature, even if disabled, still adds complexity to the running software.

Re: Firefox Bugzilla: Remove Pocket Integration

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It is so unlike Mozilla to introduce something like that, I ran a virus scan and checked what programs had been installed recently -- I assumed it had been put there in the same way that IE users used to get the Ask Toolbar installed. Exactly how I felt. What the hell were they thinking? I'm generally very supportive of Mozilla, I even supported their initiative to put advertisements on Firefox's start page. But bund…

Was money on the table to integrate Pocket into Firefox? Like with the default search engine payments Mozilla receives.

Re: Firefox Bugzilla: Remove Pocket Integration

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This bug report is not really clear. Does the submitter consider it bloat, or a privacy violation, or what? It should be obvious that the way it appears in Developer Edition (two releases ahead of "release") is not the way it will appear in the final version. This report should be about the way the feature is explained to the user, or about how hard it is to disable the feature, so that it can be improved.

> It should be obvious that the way it appears in Developer Edition (two releases ahead of "release") is not the way it will appear in the final version

It appears that it looks that way in release as well. (Showed up in 38.0.5 on my Mac this morning, not in 38.0.1 on my Fedora desktop)

I do agree with the bug report, it's inclusion in the core product is a bug that should be removed. An extension is the right place to put this.

Re: Firefox Bugzilla: Remove Pocket Integration

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post #2

This bug report is not really clear. Does the submitter consider it bloat, or a privacy violation, or what? It should be obvious that the way it appears in Developer Edition (two releases ahead of "release") is not the way it will appear in the final version. This report should be about the way the feature is explained to the user, or about how hard it is to disable the feature, so that it can be improved.

What's about Developer Edition? I have "regular" edition, and after the recent update it greeted me with a page about Pocket integration being built-in.

While I do use Pocket, I honestly don't like the direction Mozilla took.

Re: Firefox Bugzilla: Remove Pocket Integration

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I really like both Firefox and Pocket, but I can't imagine a good reason for them to be integrated at this level. I searched for what justification has been offered and found [1]. I'd love to read something more informative and convincing.

[1] http://www.planet-libre.org/?post_id=18514

Re: Firefox Bugzilla: Remove Pocket Integration

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post #2

This bug report is not really clear. Does the submitter consider it bloat, or a privacy violation, or what? It should be obvious that the way it appears in Developer Edition (two releases ahead of "release") is not the way it will appear in the final version. This report should be about the way the feature is explained to the user, or about how hard it is to disable the feature, so that it can be improved.

What's about Developer Edition? I have "regular" edition, and after the recent update it greeted me with a page about Pocket integration being built-in. While I do use Pocket, I honestly don't like the direction Mozilla took.

It was mentioned in the middle of the bug report. I didn't realize the feature had shipped already.

Re: Firefox Bugzilla: Remove Pocket Integration

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This trend of Firefox increasingly bundling more services and features is an interesting paradox considering that Firefox started as a quiet project to make a slimmed down, no frills browser in comparison to the main Mozilla browser.

I’ve recently resumed using Firefox as my main browser partly driven by support of the project but also because Chrome was taking too much RAM and causing performance issues. Of course, when Chrome first came out it was a very slimmed down browser that used a lot less RAM compared to Firefox. Everything moves in cycles…

Re: Firefox Bugzilla: Remove Pocket Integration

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post #16

I really like both Firefox and Pocket, but I can't imagine a good reason for them to be integrated at this level. I searched for what justification has been offered and found [1]. I'd love to read something more informative and convincing. [1] http://www.planet-libre.org/?post_id=18514

Thank you, that link answers a lot of questions.

Re: Firefox Bugzilla: Remove Pocket Integration

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post #13

It is so unlike Mozilla to introduce something like that, I ran a virus scan and checked what programs had been installed recently -- I assumed it had been put there in the same way that IE users used to get the Ask Toolbar installed. Exactly how I felt. What the hell were they thinking? I'm generally very supportive of Mozilla, I even supported their initiative to put advertisements on Firefox's start page. But bund…

Was money on the table to integrate Pocket into Firefox? Like with the default search engine payments Mozilla receives.

Almost certainly.
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