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Install OS X 10.10 Yosemite in VirtualBox

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Re: Install OS X 10.10 Yosemite in VirtualBox

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Post by supercoder »

josteink wrote: post #6
csvan wrote: post #2

Needless to say, this is a gross EULA violation (clarification: if you do it on non-Apple hardware, that is).

Yes. Those legally binding EULAs with the associated EULA-violations we've constantly heard people getting jailed over. How about you Mac-heads come to terms with Macs being bog standard X86 hardware and OSX being a bog standard X86 OS, and that running a bog standard X86 OS on bog standard X86 hardware is absolutely within everyone's legal right to do? There's nothing special about your hardware nor OS. Get over it.…

As the Apple hardware & software combo is so beautiful, I prefer to run OSX and virtualize Linux when necessary.

Re: Install OS X 10.10 Yosemite in VirtualBox

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Post by anon1385 »

josteink wrote: post #7
legulere wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not, you're allowed to install OS X in virtual machines granted it is on a apple device.

> It's not, you're allowed to install OS X in virtual machines granted it is on a apple device. I was with you until you said something about restrictions. No court of law anywhere has said that you running standard X86 code in a standard X86 environment is illegal.

Somehow I imagine you take a rather different stance when it comes to the many aspects of the GPL or AGPL that haven't been tested in court. On those issues the position of the FSF is very much 'illegal till proven otherwise' (that's if you actually succeed in getting Eben Moglen to give a straight answer).

Re: Install OS X 10.10 Yosemite in VirtualBox

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Post by csvan »

josteink wrote: post #6
csvan wrote: post #2

Needless to say, this is a gross EULA violation (clarification: if you do it on non-Apple hardware, that is).

Yes. Those legally binding EULAs with the associated EULA-violations we've constantly heard people getting jailed over. How about you Mac-heads come to terms with Macs being bog standard X86 hardware and OSX being a bog standard X86 OS, and that running a bog standard X86 OS on bog standard X86 hardware is absolutely within everyone's legal right to do? There's nothing special about your hardware nor OS. Get over it.…

Love how you assume that I am a "mac-head" for pointing out something like this.

Re: Install OS X 10.10 Yosemite in VirtualBox

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Post by pavlov »

josteink wrote: post #7
legulere wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not, you're allowed to install OS X in virtual machines granted it is on a apple device.

> It's not, you're allowed to install OS X in virtual machines granted it is on a apple device. I was with you until you said something about restrictions. No court of law anywhere has said that you running standard X86 code in a standard X86 environment is illegal.

But can you run any x86 code in any x86 environment, even when not licensed for it?

Taken literally, your stance would mean that software licenses have no legal standing and binaries can be copied to anyone to be run anywhere -- it's just "running standard x86 code in a standard x86 environment" after all.

Re: Install OS X 10.10 Yosemite in VirtualBox

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Post by legulere »

josteink wrote: post #7
legulere wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not, you're allowed to install OS X in virtual machines granted it is on a apple device.

> It's not, you're allowed to install OS X in virtual machines granted it is on a apple device. I was with you until you said something about restrictions. No court of law anywhere has said that you running standard X86 code in a standard X86 environment is illegal.

In some countries (and circumstances) EULAs are legally binding.

Re: Install OS X 10.10 Yosemite in VirtualBox

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Post by michaelt »

nathankunicki wrote: post #9
csvan wrote: post #2

Needless to say, this is a gross EULA violation (clarification: if you do it on non-Apple hardware, that is).

Virtualization is expressly permitted by the Mac OS X 10.10.3 (Yosemite) SLA (Section 2B III) - http://images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/OSX10103.pdf (iii) to install, use and run up to two (2) additional copies or instances of the Apple Software within virtual operating system environments on each Mac Computer you own or control that is already running the Apple Software, for purposes of: (a) software development; (b)…

What I don't understand is: If Apple allows people to visualise OS X, why do they make doing so such a pain in the ass?

I looked into virtualising OS X so I could test an installer on a clean machine image, but the instructions always involve downloading patched ISOs from torrent sites. Seemed to me testing like that would make me less professional, not more professional :)

Re: Install OS X 10.10 Yosemite in VirtualBox

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Post by chii »

kuschku wrote: post #4
csvan wrote: post #2

Needless to say, this is a gross EULA violation (clarification: if you do it on non-Apple hardware, that is).

If you are in the US. In other countries, these parts of the EULA might not have a legal meaning at all.

in other countries, the US can activate and kill with drones, their laws have little to legal meaning at all.
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