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Italian boy survives being trapped underwater for 42 minutes

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Re: Italian boy survives being trapped underwater for 42 minutes

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post #6

Why the fuck is this on the front page of hacker news.

Because flashes of insight and great ideas often come from reading articles about topics outside of our individual fields. Also, hacker news is primarily for entrepreneurs and hackers (not in the criminal sense of the word) which means besides the small common threads like technology and business, we come from all walks of life and fields.

Re: Italian boy survives being trapped underwater for 42 minutes

#12
post #6

Why the fuck is this on the front page of hacker news.

Assuming your question is not rhetorical, do you mean 'why is this on the front page of Hacker News', or 'why is this on Hacker News?'

If your question is the former, and thus regarding rank, then there are a few resources from where you could begin pursuing an answer to your inquiry [0].

If your question is the latter, Hacker News has clear guidelines [1]. When I find something is not immediately of interest to me, I like to pause thinking about myself for a moment and ask myself, 'would this be of interest to others in the community?'

Further, based on the recency of the post and upvotes, the answer to that question is 'yes, there are some numbers of 'hackers' or Hacker News readers who find this article interesting.'

[0] http://www.righto.com/2013/11/how-hacker-news-ranking-really... [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Italian boy survives being trapped underwater for 42 minutes

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post #4

There's a reason why they say that "you're not dead until you're warm and dead"! The case of Anna Bågenholm [1] is similarly fascinating. She was in cold meltwater for 80 minutes before being pulled out, and made a ~full recovery. Her core temperature was around 56 degrees when they began resuscitation. It is truly amazing how effective hypothermia is at preserving bodily function! [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An…

For the convenience of non-US commenters/readers: that's 13 C.

Re: Italian boy survives being trapped underwater for 42 minutes

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post #9
post #6

Why the fuck is this on the front page of hacker news.

Just for interest: why shouldn't be on the front page? Why do you think this is off topic? And what should? What do you think is on-topic?

Perhaps he or she doesn't know about cryonics and that people are seriously working towards it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryonics

Re: Italian boy survives being trapped underwater for 42 minutes

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post #9
post #6

Why the fuck is this on the front page of hacker news.

Just for interest: why shouldn't be on the front page? Why do you think this is off topic? And what should? What do you think is on-topic?

I'm surprised you're surprised. A lot of people associate HN with software and startups. They don't realise its scope is a bit broader.

Re: Italian boy survives being trapped underwater for 42 minutes

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post #2

Unbelievable. Typically an oxygen starved brain can be permanently destroyed in minutes, like alone more than half an hour. Just shows that what we think are limits to human capacity are more just experienced we've had until now. Very inspiring.

I suspect the boy was saved by the mammalian diving reflex. It is what allows whales to hold their breath for so long. It exists in a much weaker form in humans especially young ones. It kicks in when the face is submerged in cold water. 40 minutes is certainly at the high end but this isnt unprecedented

http://www.today.com/id/36190954/ns/today-today_news/t/mirac...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammalian_diving_reflex

Re: Italian boy survives being trapped underwater for 42 minutes

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post #2

Unbelievable. Typically an oxygen starved brain can be permanently destroyed in minutes, like alone more than half an hour. Just shows that what we think are limits to human capacity are more just experienced we've had until now. Very inspiring.

It's fairly well known that submersion in cold water can lead to recoveries after periods of time far longer than would be expected in other circumstances.

Re: Italian boy survives being trapped underwater for 42 minutes

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I wonder why they even tried CPR or a defibrillator. They spent 42 minutes rescuing someone who was underwater, and then decided to try and revive him? Maybe there are details left out, like he was not fully submerged the entire time...

It's a kid... you try.

Worked a 3 year old a couple weeks ago with an unknown downtime in a pool (up to 15 minutes). He was dead from the outset (initial rhythm was asystole), and he stayed dead (much warmer water in this case), but you still try...

This is especially true for cold-water drownings. Downtimes even longer than 42 minutes with full recoveries are not unheard of. You're not dead until you're warm and dead.

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