Path's failure is a fitting reminder of the likely outcome of making your key metrics friendships and moments rather than revenue. No doubt this is just one of many overfunded social apps that will fall into the abyss this year.
Daum Kakao Will Acquire the Path and Path Talk Apps
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#12"Dave Morin is a cunt." http://jesuschristsiliconvalley.tumblr.com/post/46539276780/...
Personal attacks are not allowed on Hacker News.
Dan, though I will continue to abide by your rules, I respectfully disagree with your choice here. Dave Morin is a public figure; I think the linked article is closer to appropriate satire than personal attack.
Clarifying question: It wouldn't be appropriate to call a mocking of an individual socially marginal person a satire; but is it correct to label a satire a personal attack?
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#13Anyone know what Daum Kakao does?
I've heard of KakaoTalk before; it's one of the most popular messaging applications in South Korea. According to Wikipedia it's used by 93% of smartphone owners in South Korea [1]. Daum Kakao is the parent company, and looks to have their fingers in a lot of generic web services pies. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KakaoTalk
In turn, KakaoTalk is extremely similar to LINE, an application developed by the Japanese subsidiary of Daum's rival Naver. LINE seems to dominate the Japanese messenging market almost as strongly as KKT dominates South Korea (it's probably not possible to be functional socially without a KKT account there).
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've heard of KakaoTalk before; it's one of the most popular messaging applications in South Korea. According to Wikipedia it's used by 93% of smartphone owners in South Korea [1]. Daum Kakao is the parent company, and looks to have their fingers in a lot of generic web services pies. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KakaoTalk
In turn, KakaoTalk is extremely similar to LINE, an application developed by the Japanese subsidiary of Daum's rival Naver. LINE seems to dominate the Japanese messenging market almost as strongly as KKT dominates South Korea (it's probably not possible to be functional socially without a KKT account there).
Which I always thought was strange, given LINE generally provided a better experience and Naver is stronger in South Korea than Daum, at least in the search provider/maps areas.
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#16Path's failure is a fitting reminder of the likely outcome of making your key metrics friendships and moments rather than revenue. No doubt this is just one of many overfunded social apps that will fall into the abyss this year.
This is about as empty as criticism could get. If a company is solely focus on revenue then it's "short sighted and make bad product". Otherwise they're "over funded without business plan". You can't win anyway huh?
I have no idea on why any of those social/ mobile apps is useful and I have never used Path either. But please keep the no substance criticism to a minimum please.
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
In turn, KakaoTalk is extremely similar to LINE, an application developed by the Japanese subsidiary of Daum's rival Naver. LINE seems to dominate the Japanese messenging market almost as strongly as KKT dominates South Korea (it's probably not possible to be functional socially without a KKT account there).
Which I always thought was strange, given LINE generally provided a better experience and Naver is stronger in South Korea than Daum, at least in the search provider/maps areas.
Well, KakaoTalk was first -- they launched in 2010, and NHN launched LINE to the Japanese public in mid-2011. I'm actually not sure when or in what capacity Naver tried to port it to the Korean market. It would have needed localization beyond just UI translation. I've only used LINE for business, but I imagine the stickers (large emoji) that are a big part of the user experience of both apps when used casually were initially tuned for Japanese emoji culture (which has a fairly rich, complex history, that is intertwined with various popular Japanese characters and memes). So I'm guessing there was a significant time gap.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Personal attacks are not allowed on Hacker News.
Dan, though I will continue to abide by your rules, I respectfully disagree with your choice here. Dave Morin is a public figure; I think the linked article is closer to appropriate satire than personal attack. Clarifying question: It wouldn't be appropriate to call a mocking of an individual socially marginal person a satire; but is it correct to label a satire a personal attack?
People don't cease to be persons when they become public figures.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've heard of KakaoTalk before; it's one of the most popular messaging applications in South Korea. According to Wikipedia it's used by 93% of smartphone owners in South Korea [1]. Daum Kakao is the parent company, and looks to have their fingers in a lot of generic web services pies. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KakaoTalk
In turn, KakaoTalk is extremely similar to LINE, an application developed by the Japanese subsidiary of Daum's rival Naver. LINE seems to dominate the Japanese messenging market almost as strongly as KKT dominates South Korea (it's probably not possible to be functional socially without a KKT account there).
I've lived in Korea, my experience was you gave out phone numbers when meeting new people, KakaoTalk automatically scans new contacts and adds them to your KakaoTalk contacts and all subsequent texting and photo sharing was through KakaoTalk.
I only texted one person regularly while I lived there, my boss; my boss had a KakaoTalk account but didn't use it (with me at least).
I still use it, it's a very good messaging application with some pretty well implemented features (and excellent custom emojis!).
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
In turn, KakaoTalk is extremely similar to LINE, an application developed by the Japanese subsidiary of Daum's rival Naver. LINE seems to dominate the Japanese messenging market almost as strongly as KKT dominates South Korea (it's probably not possible to be functional socially without a KKT account there).
I've lived in Korea, my experience was you gave out phone numbers when meeting new people, KakaoTalk automatically scans new contacts and adds them to your KakaoTalk contacts and all subsequent texting and photo sharing was through KakaoTalk. I only texted one person regularly while I lived there, my boss; my boss had a KakaoTalk account but didn't use it (with me at least). I still use it, it's a very good messaging…
KakaoTalk is very well realized and really fun to use; the privacy side leaves me queasy, though. KakaoTalk conversations are known to be under government surveillance, and the KCSC is a troublesome institution in general (cf. http://opennetkorea.org/en/wp/administrative-censorship).