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Is This the Office of the Future or a $5B Waste of Space?

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Re: Is This the Office of the Future or a $5B Waste of Space?

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I can't be the only one who's tired of the USA's alcohol-drenched startup culture. In the first four paragraphs: keg, keg, beer, bar, tap, bar, pub, microbrews, tap, happy hour, tequila, margaritas, "90,000 glasses of beer".

My eyes rolled so fast at that I got dizzy.

Re: Is This the Office of the Future or a $5B Waste of Space?

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I think this was a fine article with a terrible title.

I worked out of WeWork’s SoHo office in NYC for a while and was pleased with the details they got right to make themselves attractive to startups (no pesky sales team, short notice to cancel, no nickel and diming on Wi-Fi, printers, etc.).

Before WeWork, I also worked in a Regus office (their competitor mentioned in the article) and they managed to get all the same things wrong. Perhaps they have adapted since. I’m unaffiliated with either company but wish WeWork well. It was a fun vibe they cultivated and everyone seemed to enjoy working there.

Re: Is This the Office of the Future or a $5B Waste of Space?

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I work in WeWork and love it. It's a great atmosphere and can be inspiring to look around and feel the young, vibrant energy. That's a bad title though; it certainly isn't a waste of space and the article never even seemed to allude to it being a waste of space.

Re: Is This the Office of the Future or a $5B Waste of Space?

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I can't be the only one who's tired of the USA's alcohol-drenched startup culture. In the first four paragraphs: keg, keg, beer, bar, tap, bar, pub, microbrews, tap, happy hour, tequila, margaritas, "90,000 glasses of beer".

Don't worry, you aren't the only one. I long to be transported to a time or place where humans weren't so accepting... no, seeking such blatant disrespect to their personal dignity and craft. It seems to be one facet of a theme of infantilization and youth glorification in work culture and society at large. I am not sure whether it has any relationship with the rise of the "social" plague in industry, and the widespr…

I work in this youth glorified startup world. It's awfully critical to imply that those of us who enjoy the atmosphere are "seeking blatant disregard to their personal dignity and craft."

There's not as much drinking done as you would think and really it's either an after work hours thing or someone is coming in checking the place out and has a beer. It's really not a big deal. It's actually just more convenient because alcohol can loosen you up and means you don't have to go across the street to an expensive bar.

I believe you're taking an overly hard-lined approach to this. I work very hard, and so do many others. There's some who just dick around, but that's going to be in any office. I would ask you though, what's more conducive to meeting new people around the office? A light-hearted 5:00 / 6:00 drink at the bar right outside the work area where there's already other people drinking OR organizing everyone to go to a bar across the street and hope people show up OR just going to the bar?

WeWork is a great place because of the community it builds and you might very well argue it does that on the back of its kegs with taps labeled WeWork. Is this really so bad? Think about your typical startup who's struggling to get along. Isn't it better that they have others to talk to especially others who are going through the exact thing they are?

I genuinely think you can't understand all the psychodynamics at play because you're stubbornly holding onto your perception of a workplace should be. Hey to each their own, but I see a lot of positives in WeWork's approach.

Re: Is This the Office of the Future or a $5B Waste of Space?

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I can't be the only one who's tired of the USA's alcohol-drenched startup culture. In the first four paragraphs: keg, keg, beer, bar, tap, bar, pub, microbrews, tap, happy hour, tequila, margaritas, "90,000 glasses of beer".

I like beer, but it's exhausting because the assumption is your socializing now takes place at work. I imagine it's pure hell for anyone who struggles with alcohol addiction.

As a compulsive eater, I HATE it when offices have free snacks. It's mentally taxing to know there's free snacks only meters away all day long. When I switched from a place with free chips and candy to a place with free apples and pears, I lost a decent amount of weight.

Re: Is This the Office of the Future or a $5B Waste of Space?

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post #2

I can't be the only one who's tired of the USA's alcohol-drenched startup culture. In the first four paragraphs: keg, keg, beer, bar, tap, bar, pub, microbrews, tap, happy hour, tequila, margaritas, "90,000 glasses of beer".

Don't worry, you aren't the only one. I long to be transported to a time or place where humans weren't so accepting... no, seeking such blatant disrespect to their personal dignity and craft. It seems to be one facet of a theme of infantilization and youth glorification in work culture and society at large. I am not sure whether it has any relationship with the rise of the "social" plague in industry, and the widespr…

> playgrounds for kids are becoming more like jails

The solution to this problem is to revolt. Stop taking your kids to the playground. Get them helmets and a kickbike and go to the local skateboard park. Go out hiking with them, even if it's just 300 yards in a park. Run on the beach. Let them eat the sand. Give them proper rain clothing and boots so they can jump in puddles for hours on end. Teach them that there is no bad weather, just bad clothing. Show them how a socket wrench works. Let them "help" whenever you're doing something, if it's cooking or cleaning or repairing stuff or whatever. And for gods sake don't buy them a tablet.

DISCLAIMER: said activities may require physical exercise and actual parenting.

Re: Is This the Office of the Future or a $5B Waste of Space?

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I can't be the only one who's tired of the USA's alcohol-drenched startup culture. In the first four paragraphs: keg, keg, beer, bar, tap, bar, pub, microbrews, tap, happy hour, tequila, margaritas, "90,000 glasses of beer".

Don't worry, you aren't the only one. I long to be transported to a time or place where humans weren't so accepting... no, seeking such blatant disrespect to their personal dignity and craft. It seems to be one facet of a theme of infantilization and youth glorification in work culture and society at large. I am not sure whether it has any relationship with the rise of the "social" plague in industry, and the widespr…

Sounds like an awful lot like corporate speak.

Re: Is This the Office of the Future or a $5B Waste of Space?

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Don't worry, you aren't the only one. I long to be transported to a time or place where humans weren't so accepting... no, seeking such blatant disrespect to their personal dignity and craft. It seems to be one facet of a theme of infantilization and youth glorification in work culture and society at large. I am not sure whether it has any relationship with the rise of the "social" plague in industry, and the widespr…

> playgrounds for kids are becoming more like jails The solution to this problem is to revolt. Stop taking your kids to the playground. Get them helmets and a kickbike and go to the local skateboard park. Go out hiking with them, even if it's just 300 yards in a park. Run on the beach. Let them eat the sand. Give them proper rain clothing and boots so they can jump in puddles for hours on end. Teach them that there i…

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Re: Is This the Office of the Future or a $5B Waste of Space?

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post #2

I can't be the only one who's tired of the USA's alcohol-drenched startup culture. In the first four paragraphs: keg, keg, beer, bar, tap, bar, pub, microbrews, tap, happy hour, tequila, margaritas, "90,000 glasses of beer".

I'm pleased. It seems like a better culture than the alternatives.
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