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Meteor Raises $20M

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Re: Meteor Raises $20M

#11

Post by sergiotapia »

I looked into Meteor and it's amazing how everything clicks together. It's just such a drastic change in complexity and feels like a breath of fresh air.

The one thing that made me drop it as the choice for a primary stack was the fact that it's tied so heavily into MongoDB. Meteor has a mongodb 'server' replicated client side, that's how they can actually make Meteor so god damn snappy, it's latancy compensation.

If they were to integrate something like Postgresql into Meteor, I would easily switch over from Rails and it would become my de-facto web stack.

I'll just keep building Rails APIs with EmberJS clients until then, I do hope it's soon though. I loved working with Meteor.

Re: Meteor Raises $20M

#12

Post by rglover »

sergiotapia wrote: post #11

I looked into Meteor and it's amazing how everything clicks together. It's just such a drastic change in complexity and feels like a breath of fresh air. The one thing that made me drop it as the choice for a primary stack was the fact that it's tied so heavily into MongoDB. Meteor has a mongodb 'server' replicated client side, that's how they can actually make Meteor so god damn snappy, it's latancy compensation. If…

Folks are working on it: https://github.com/numtel/meteor-pg. Also there are plans for core support down the road.

Re: Meteor Raises $20M

#13

Post by rglover »

auvi wrote: post #6

Can anybody tell me what is the business model of Meteor? If they are getting investments, the investors has some idea of a ROI and what that could be?

They're working on a paid hosting platform called Galaxy that will be designed for quick, easy deployment of Meteor apps. If you work with the framework now, you can deploy to an early version of Galaxy using the command `meteor deploy` (yes, that's it) from your project directory. The goal is to keep that level of simplicity, but offer a platform that's production-grade.

Re: Meteor Raises $20M

#14

Post by sergiotapia »

rglover wrote: post #12
sergiotapia wrote: post #11

I looked into Meteor and it's amazing how everything clicks together. It's just such a drastic change in complexity and feels like a breath of fresh air. The one thing that made me drop it as the choice for a primary stack was the fact that it's tied so heavily into MongoDB. Meteor has a mongodb 'server' replicated client side, that's how they can actually make Meteor so god damn snappy, it's latancy compensation. If…

Folks are working on it: https://github.com/numtel/meteor-pg . Also there are plans for core support down the road.

Oh I know, the guys are very open about the roadmap, they have a Trello board. I'm counting the days where I can finally go all in with Meteor. Everyone I know IRL is excited for Meteor but Mongo is what kept everyone sort of away.

Re: Meteor Raises $20M

#15

Post by fiatmoney »

sergiotapia wrote: post #11

I looked into Meteor and it's amazing how everything clicks together. It's just such a drastic change in complexity and feels like a breath of fresh air. The one thing that made me drop it as the choice for a primary stack was the fact that it's tied so heavily into MongoDB. Meteor has a mongodb 'server' replicated client side, that's how they can actually make Meteor so god damn snappy, it's latancy compensation. If…

Yes, Mongo dependency is a dealbreaker for many people who would like to be using it.

Re: Meteor Raises $20M

#16

Post by joeriel »

sergiotapia wrote: post #11

I looked into Meteor and it's amazing how everything clicks together. It's just such a drastic change in complexity and feels like a breath of fresh air. The one thing that made me drop it as the choice for a primary stack was the fact that it's tied so heavily into MongoDB. Meteor has a mongodb 'server' replicated client side, that's how they can actually make Meteor so god damn snappy, it's latancy compensation. If…

SQL support is the biggest ask on their Trello board.

https://trello.com/b/hjBDflxp/meteor-roadmap

There are some good packages on Atmosphere for PostgreSQL, but I think that it needs to be officially supported/integrated for many people to be comfortable with it.

Re: Meteor Raises $20M

#17

Post by rywalker »

smanuel wrote: post #10
adamnemecek wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hosting.

I couldn't find any pricing information on their website and that's why I asked. I've heard people using Meteor on Heroku, DO, etc. but I've always wondered why someone would choose Meteor's hosting rather than host Meteor on Heroku (for example) and use a ton of other available plugins.

Meteor's hosting platform will be optimized for websocket-oriented always-connected applications, with monitoring/auto-scaling features for that sort of app.

Re: Meteor Raises $20M

#18

Post by murbard2 »

I'm actually looking into meteor at the moment, and the financial backing is a big plus, as it gives me some guarantee that the project will keep being maintained for the foreseeable future.

It is indeed a breeze to prototype applications with it, but I am a little bit concerned about the costs of getting an actual production ready site with it.

For intance, when is it ever OK to let your client write directly in the database, even for their own data? If you're going to pass their calls through a deny and allow call, why not just expose RPCs to the client that will handle any writing?

It seems that a lot of the light versality you have at prototyping time is lost whenever you have to get it production ready. There is definitely some value in light prototypes, but it looks like a real pain to go from prototype to production.

Likewise, I'm confused about how to get around the limitations of mongodb. Say you run a store with a finite inventory, how do you handle concurrent purchases? How about a website to enroll into classes? How about a webforum which can have exactly 5 administrators?

Re: Meteor Raises $20M

#20

Post by smanuel »

rywalker wrote: post #17
smanuel wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I couldn't find any pricing information on their website and that's why I asked. I've heard people using Meteor on Heroku, DO, etc. but I've always wondered why someone would choose Meteor's hosting rather than host Meteor on Heroku (for example) and use a ton of other available plugins.

Meteor's hosting platform will be optimized for websocket-oriented always-connected applications, with monitoring/auto-scaling features for that sort of app.

Hmm, I didn't know that apps that use websockets needed a different kind of auto-scaling and monitoring.

That's interesting. Thanks!

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