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Build Apps for Cars on the New Automatic Developer Platform

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Re: Build Apps for Cars on the New Automatic Developer Platform

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I'm browsing this website for 5 minutes, and still dont fully understand what they offer. Do they offer an api to get data of their own drivers on the road? Or do they offer an api to get data of any car out there? Or do they have a box you need to install in your car, which has a built in rest api to get the data you need? I think the initial value this company provides should be more clear on the landing page.

Ok i found that this is just the developer portal for www.automatic.com.

Re: Build Apps for Cars on the New Automatic Developer Platform

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post #7

I'm browsing this website for 5 minutes, and still dont fully understand what they offer. Do they offer an api to get data of their own drivers on the road? Or do they offer an api to get data of any car out there? Or do they have a box you need to install in your car, which has a built in rest api to get the data you need? I think the initial value this company provides should be more clear on the landing page.

It's something which plugs into the CAN port of your car and sends the diagnostic data from there to your phone.

Seemed pretty straightforward to read to me

Re: Build Apps for Cars on the New Automatic Developer Platform

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I'm browsing this website for 5 minutes, and still dont fully understand what they offer. Do they offer an api to get data of their own drivers on the road? Or do they offer an api to get data of any car out there? Or do they have a box you need to install in your car, which has a built in rest api to get the data you need? I think the initial value this company provides should be more clear on the landing page.

From what I gather, it's a bluetooth device that you plug into your cars OBD-II port. That transmits data from your car to your smart phone. Your phone, then, transmits the data to automatic. So, you can look at daily gas mileage stats, error codes, and things like that. I assume the GPS parts come from the phone itself (while in the car). The idea sounds interesting but I wouldn't want the data to be transmitted to…

Ah indeed. Good point about privacy. Also they are not available in Europe.

Re: Build Apps for Cars on the New Automatic Developer Platform

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post #7

I'm browsing this website for 5 minutes, and still dont fully understand what they offer. Do they offer an api to get data of their own drivers on the road? Or do they offer an api to get data of any car out there? Or do they have a box you need to install in your car, which has a built in rest api to get the data you need? I think the initial value this company provides should be more clear on the landing page.

Hi TeeWEE, imagine if every car had an API that you could build apps for and drivers could give you access to the data via OAuth. That's basically what the developer platform lets you do. We have a REST API, real-time events via webhooks / websockets and a direct Bluetooth API to the car for mobile clients to access data from the CAN bus directly.

Re: Build Apps for Cars on the New Automatic Developer Platform

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I didn't know there was already a second generation Automatic. I pre-ordered the first one and had a lot of problems with it constantly losing connection and not tracking trips. I checked the app a few times to find out that data was just not collected, and it was just cumbersome to get the device to reconnect, with having to turn off my engine and do a dance to get it to talk to my car, that it just became a pain an…

Completely agree. Why would you trust these guys again? I won't. I didn't sign up to be a system administrator for my truck, and they see no problem with shipping hardware that can't do the ONE THING that they claim to sell it for. Track trips - maybe!

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I didn't know there was already a second generation Automatic. I pre-ordered the first one and had a lot of problems with it constantly losing connection and not tracking trips. I checked the app a few times to find out that data was just not collected, and it was just cumbersome to get the device to reconnect, with having to turn off my engine and do a dance to get it to talk to my car, that it just became a pain an…

I bought the first one as well. Huge waste, since it was not clear when I bought it that it wouldn't support my VW TDI (Diesel) engine.

edit: just got the email about supporting my TDI a few minutes ago

Re: Build Apps for Cars on the New Automatic Developer Platform

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The actual car events listed on their website is incredibility limited. Anyone who has spent time dealing with OBD-II ports, canbus, etc. knows that getting access to data beyond basics like RPM, Speed, and maybe braking (Mode 1 PIDs) is typically vendor specific and can vary between years of the same model, let alone models within the same manufacturer.

Someone mentioned VW below. Remember, there has been discussion that the automotive vendors want to lock access to OBD-II/Canbus info.

Re: Build Apps for Cars on the New Automatic Developer Platform

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I've never thought about this because I don't even own a car anymore. Essentially it's a device that converts diagnostic data to a standardized format (and displays this in a corresponding app)? +now you can use the data in your own apps

Is the app required or is there a device that I can plug in, read data for a while, unplug and get the data to a desktop (like a usb key)...because that would be interesting for me. Anything with a mobile connection...scares me :D

Re: Build Apps for Cars on the New Automatic Developer Platform

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The actual car events listed on their website is incredibility limited. Anyone who has spent time dealing with OBD-II ports, canbus, etc. knows that getting access to data beyond basics like RPM, Speed, and maybe braking (Mode 1 PIDs) is typically vendor specific and can vary between years of the same model, let alone models within the same manufacturer. Someone mentioned VW below. Remember, there has been discussion…

You're absolutely right that there is a lot more information in cars than we expose right now. What we're announcing today is the first step. The goal is to continue to expose more and more data over time via simple to use APIs.

Re: Build Apps for Cars on the New Automatic Developer Platform

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post #16
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I didn't know there was already a second generation Automatic. I pre-ordered the first one and had a lot of problems with it constantly losing connection and not tracking trips. I checked the app a few times to find out that data was just not collected, and it was just cumbersome to get the device to reconnect, with having to turn off my engine and do a dance to get it to talk to my car, that it just became a pain an…

I bought the first one as well. Huge waste, since it was not clear when I bought it that it wouldn't support my VW TDI (Diesel) engine. edit: just got the email about supporting my TDI a few minutes ago

We did not support Diesel cars when we launched two years ago. We do now. You can continue to use the device you have now if you car is model year 2006 or later, but please drive for a bit and let the firmware update to the latest version. The latest generation of the hardware supports Diesel as well.

It was very clearly mentioned in various places on our website that Diesel cars were not supported before we added support, but we're happy to give you a refund if you missed it and never got to use the product. Please send an email to support@automatic.com and point them to this comment and they'll take care of it for you.

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