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Reminds me of Windows NT.
Or, uh, Firefox?
Restart-less add-ons have been common for a few years now for Firefox.
Microsoft's New Edge Web Browser – How to Create Edge Extensions?
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Re: Microsoft's New Edge Web Browser – How to Create Edge Extensions?
#12> There are “no plans” to make the browser (or its core engine) open source but Edge proudly incorporates open-source code I'm tired of this trend. In my opinion saying you're using some piece of open-source library for XPath does not exonerate you from releasing a browser that isn't open-source in a market that has Firefox and Chromium. I'll bet they aren't going to release Edge for Linux either. Microsoft has been…
> I'll bet they aren't going to release Edge for Linux either. I think they might, seeing the recent trends.
The only trend I'm seeing is that they are open-sourcing stuff they don't care about anymore. E.g. I just tried OneDrive, which has a shitty implementation on OS X and no implementation on Linux. If OneDrive doesn't have a Linux client (or good OS X support), what chances do you think Edge has?
And forget about Linux - if extensions are going to get distributed through the Windows Store, as this article claims, you can say goodbye to OS X support as well.
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I'm having a hard time parsing this comment in light of Apple and Google, which essentially do the same thing. The article mentions the extensions are similar to Chrome, so it's possible that someone will build a translation layer that will take underlying code and build the application specific bindings. Thanks to Xamarin, you can build an application for any platform using C#, and even more, .NET is running pretty…
So, because Apple and (to a much lesser extent) Google lock down their platforms, I should be OK when Microsoft tries to do it too? I don't use iOS for the same reason that I won't use any of Microsoft's newly walled-in tech and I don't use certain Google products for the same reason. > what technology you are referring to? I'm referring to Metro/Modern/Windows Store/Universal apps and Edge. - On Windows if I want to…
I don't use Xamarin myself, but I don't think it's very accurate to say nobody is using their tools: http://xamarin.com/customers
If you spend any time at all talking with .NET developers (of which there are millions), many are very excited about Xamarin and being able to use their existing knowledge to build native cross-platform apps.
Re: Microsoft's New Edge Web Browser – How to Create Edge Extensions?
#14I feel like all of the changes Microsoft is making are not going to matter if they keep trying to build a walled garden. There's just no way that I'm investing any significant amount of time into technology that binds users to a one single app store.
I'm having a hard time parsing this comment in light of Apple and Google, which essentially do the same thing. The article mentions the extensions are similar to Chrome, so it's possible that someone will build a translation layer that will take underlying code and build the application specific bindings. Thanks to Xamarin, you can build an application for any platform using C#, and even more, .NET is running pretty…
If Apple and Google are doing the same thing, that doesn't mean that it's OK for Microsoft to do it as well. Also, at the very least Android allows one to install software from third-party sources with a simple config change and there are alternative app stores available (e.g. Amazon's app store, F-Droid), whereas it isn't possible to do that on Windows Phone or with these modern Windows apps. And you can install apps from wherever on OS X.
Early 2000 seemed as if we're headed into a world of openness, of standards, but now the pendulum is striking back. I keep telling people that Apple is the worst thing that could have happened to this industry, but nobody listens. This is because Apple succeeded where Microsoft failed - they popularized DRM and Trusted Computing and every fear we've had when the notion of Trusted Computing happened is now coming to life ...
Re: Microsoft's New Edge Web Browser – How to Create Edge Extensions?
#15> There are “no plans” to make the browser (or its core engine) open source but Edge proudly incorporates open-source code I'm tired of this trend. In my opinion saying you're using some piece of open-source library for XPath does not exonerate you from releasing a browser that isn't open-source in a market that has Firefox and Chromium. I'll bet they aren't going to release Edge for Linux either. Microsoft has been…
> I'm tired of this trend. In my opinion saying you're using some piece of open-source library for XPath does not exonerate you from releasing a browser that isn't open-source
They don't need to be exonerated. There's no reason to turn enthusiasm for open-source into a feeling of entitlement that all software must be that way. Some of the best software I use is closed-source. I have enough complaints about Firefox and Chrome that if a better closed-source browser comes along I'm going to use it.
Re: Microsoft's New Edge Web Browser – How to Create Edge Extensions?
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> I'll bet they aren't going to release Edge for Linux either. I think they might, seeing the recent trends.
The only trend I'm seeing is that they are open-sourcing stuff they don't care about anymore. E.g. I just tried OneDrive, which has a shitty implementation on OS X and no implementation on Linux. If OneDrive doesn't have a Linux client (or good OS X support), what chances do you think Edge has? And forget about Linux - if extensions are going to get distributed through the Windows Store, as this article claims, you c…
As far as I perceive it, they're open sourcing dev-facing stuff, allowing you to create stuff for Windows without using Windows yourself. Which is a refreshing change.
Along those lines, you might expect them to make a Linux version of the Edge browser, except that it won't be the exact browser the majority of users will be running - I suspect they'd point you to the VM images they already have at modern.ie instead.
Re: Microsoft's New Edge Web Browser – How to Create Edge Extensions?
#17> There are “no plans” to make the browser (or its core engine) open source but Edge proudly incorporates open-source code I'm tired of this trend. In my opinion saying you're using some piece of open-source library for XPath does not exonerate you from releasing a browser that isn't open-source in a market that has Firefox and Chromium. I'll bet they aren't going to release Edge for Linux either. Microsoft has been…
> I'm tired of this trend. In my opinion saying you're using some piece of open-source library for XPath does not exonerate you from releasing a browser that isn't open-source They don't need to be exonerated. There's no reason to turn enthusiasm for open-source into a feeling of entitlement that all software must be that way. Some of the best software I use is closed-source. I have enough complaints about Firefox an…
Given Microsoft's history with IExplorer, that personally I haven't forgotten, I won't touch another of their browsers unless it is open-source and portable to other platforms. Because there is such a thing called trust and trust violations, which in the real world often affect relationships between two parties. So they do need to be exonerated from my point of view. You're entitled to your own opinion of course.
Re: Microsoft's New Edge Web Browser – How to Create Edge Extensions?
#18I don't understand why they even need their own web browser. Why not just ship Windows with Chrome. They could preset the settings to have bing as your home page. Or maybe that is illegal? What advantage to they gain by having their own browser? If there would be legal difficulties they could try to strike a deal with Firefox or Opera. On the same note I don't understand what Microsoft is trying to do recently. I mean eventually Windows is supposed to be free and everyone can get all the updates. .NET is becoming more open source. Visual Studio is becoming cross platform and this works on the free version. I like all these things, but I don't understand how they benefit Microsoft? The only explanation I have heard is that they are trying to "stay relevant", but what good is that relevance if they are giving Windows, .NET, and Visual Studio away for free? Am I missing something?
Re: Microsoft's New Edge Web Browser – How to Create Edge Extensions?
#19I don't understand why they even need their own web browser. Why not just ship Windows with Chrome. They could preset the settings to have bing as your home page. Or maybe that is illegal? What advantage to they gain by having their own browser? If there would be legal difficulties they could try to strike a deal with Firefox or Opera. On the same note I don't understand what Microsoft is trying to do recently. I mea…
The only thing that makes sense to me is they are using these as a vessel to push people to use Bing and to buy Office, but now you can buy Office on more and more platforms and Bing is OS agnostic. I'm just not seeing a thought out plan here.
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> I'll bet they aren't going to release Edge for Linux either. I think they might, seeing the recent trends.
The only trend I'm seeing is that they are open-sourcing stuff they don't care about anymore. E.g. I just tried OneDrive, which has a shitty implementation on OS X and no implementation on Linux. If OneDrive doesn't have a Linux client (or good OS X support), what chances do you think Edge has? And forget about Linux - if extensions are going to get distributed through the Windows Store, as this article claims, you c…
I'm pretty sure they care about .NET and the CLR...