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A Look at Backblaze’s Toshiba Hard Drives

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>> HGST, Seagate and Western Digital drives all have the serial number of the drive on the top end of the drive. Toshiba drives do not. Is simply printing and adding a label to each hard drive not enough, is it too error-prone, or what?

Scrawling the last three digits of the serial number onto the drive end with a permanent marker would probably suffice.

I'd be surprised if they didn't actually have an automated system to scan and record the serial numbers.

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>> HGST, Seagate and Western Digital drives all have the serial number of the drive on the top end of the drive. Toshiba drives do not. Is simply printing and adding a label to each hard drive not enough, is it too error-prone, or what?

Yev from Backblaze here -> The drive manufacturer won't do it for us (at least not at our scale). We're currently chatting to some channel retailers that would be able to do it for us and allow us to scale a little bit. It was discouraging us from buying in larger quantities, but if the price of the drive + labeling works out, we'll try some larger orders.

The drives don't get delivered in pods for you, right?

So why is this not just part of the "take all drives from large box/crate/etc" process for the drives?

IE whoever is taking them out of boxes puts them down, one by one, in a simple little labeling machine that slaps label on them (and records into a stupid database the label).

If you want something more advanced, labeling machine has small camera that takes picture of top of drive for further identification, you can process and store all the barcoded info that exist in the image (unlike OCR, the barcodes should be 100% accurate)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yev from Backblaze here -> The drive manufacturer won't do it for us (at least not at our scale). We're currently chatting to some channel retailers that would be able to do it for us and allow us to scale a little bit. It was discouraging us from buying in larger quantities, but if the price of the drive + labeling works out, we'll try some larger orders.

The drives don't get delivered in pods for you, right? So why is this not just part of the "take all drives from large box/crate/etc" process for the drives? IE whoever is taking them out of boxes puts them down, one by one, in a simple little labeling machine that slaps label on them (and records into a stupid database the label). If you want something more advanced, labeling machine has small camera that takes pict…

We do not get them delivered in pods no, we put them in at the datacenter. We don't do it because of the time constraints. Lets say it takes 30 seconds to do one individual drive. With 45 drives in a chassis that's 22 minutes per pod, and we get a ton of pods and drives delivered at once. Our datacenter techs are busy enough as it is, so if we can offload them, we try to. Now, if these drives were inexpensive and had a 0% failure rate over 4 years and the manufacturer/retail chain supplier still refused to put them on, yea we'd hire someone to do just labeling and do it ourselves, but for now the math doesn't work out.

Re: A Look at Backblaze’s Toshiba Hard Drives

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The first hard drive I used was a 40 MB Seagate, $900 in 1989. It was the size of a hefty phone book.

The first NetApp Filer I used had 4 GB drives, total capacity a few hundred GB, don't recall cost (not cheap), in 1997. It was the size of a small closet.

The first EMC I used had drives of size I don't recall, total capacity in the TB, for unimaginable prices, in 2000. It was the size of small room.

We're up to 8 TB drives. In 3.5". For under $300. It's mind-boggling.

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>> Failure: Disk 0491/sdag doesn’t contain a valid partition table >> Pod0491: >> x Replace sdag (Z252A34AS) with a new 3TB Toshiba DT01ACA300 >> x Reboot Pod0491 and re-add new sdag to sync I wish they fed that to a sound synthesizer with a 'Borg' voice. Coolest datacenter ever.

In Mac OS X Terminal: say -v Trinoids "Failure: Disk 0491/sdag doesn’t contain a valid partition table. Pod0491: Replace sdag (Z252A34AS) with a new 3TB Toshiba DT01ACA300. Reboot Pod0491 and re-add new sdag to sync. Your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own"

Not sure if I want to tell the kids about that one or not. I may not hear the end of it. (or at least, the half hour each till parental controls kicks them out)

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>> Failure: Disk 0491/sdag doesn’t contain a valid partition table >> Pod0491: >> x Replace sdag (Z252A34AS) with a new 3TB Toshiba DT01ACA300 >> x Reboot Pod0491 and re-add new sdag to sync I wish they fed that to a sound synthesizer with a 'Borg' voice. Coolest datacenter ever.

In Mac OS X Terminal: say -v Trinoids "Failure: Disk 0491/sdag doesn’t contain a valid partition table. Pod0491: Replace sdag (Z252A34AS) with a new 3TB Toshiba DT01ACA300. Reboot Pod0491 and re-add new sdag to sync. Your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own"

I love that it knows how to pronounce 3TB.
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