Firefox 38 released • Hacker News Board

Re: Firefox 38 released

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Post by ramy_d » Tue, May 12, 2015, 4:12 PM UTC

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #9

> Ruby annotation support Finally! After only 24 years, East Asian languages get some attention. Perhaps next Western browser makers might consider vertical text support. sigh

the syntax is really confusing though. Duplicating characters? I thought it was hard to follow what would end up where https://hacks.mozilla.org/2015/03/ruby-support-in-firefox-de...

Re: Firefox 38 released

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Post by AdmiralAsshat » Tue, May 12, 2015, 4:12 PM UTC

>CRITICAL Vulnerability can be used to run attacker code and install software, requiring no user interaction beyond normal browsing.

Uh, glad they fixed this one, but it sounds pretty bad. I'd kinda like to see the actual CVE/bug report.

Re: Firefox 38 released

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Post by acdha » Tue, May 12, 2015, 4:14 PM UTC

Touche wrote: post #7

> Mac OS X: Implemented a subset of the Media Source Extensions (MSE) API to allow native HTML5 playback on YouTube HTML5 > Implemented Encrypted Media Extensions (EME) API to support encrypted HTML5 video/audio playback (Windows Vista or later only) HTML5 > Automatically download Adobe Primetime Content Decryption Module (CDM) for DRM playback through EME (Windows Vista or later only) :( Notice which OSes are left o…

What video could you watch before that you cannot watch now? I also wish we lived in a world which didn't need EME but it's not like the status quo was video which played for everyone. It just meant that everyone had to download monthly updates to avoid security problems with the massive plugin they used to play video and Linux, etc. users were largely still screwed.

Re: Firefox 38 released

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Post by threedaymonk » Tue, May 12, 2015, 4:16 PM UTC

wodenokoto wrote: post #3

serve_yay wrote: post #2

Interesting, I had not heard of ruby before! (more info here, as linked in TFA https://hacks.mozilla.org/2015/03/ruby-support-in-firefox-de... )

I was really surprised to see this wasn't implemented much earlier. Chrome apparently had support for XHTML 1.1 Ruby since 2010! I am also surprised to see how verbose actual ruby markup is. Better examples of mark-up on wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_character#HTML_markup

Its absence has been a persistent irritation to me. I'm glad that I can now retire this:

https://github.com/threedaymonk/furigana-shim

Re: Firefox 38 released

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Post by xixixao » Tue, May 12, 2015, 4:17 PM UTC

So I got momentarily excited that there are new "tab preferences" (like having new tab open next to the current one), but unfortunately it's just a UI revamp of the settings pane, which since I'm on OS X I cannot care for much (the UI is a bit too flat and generally not as familiar as the native box, although who cares...)

Re: Firefox 38 released

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Post by aroch » Tue, May 12, 2015, 4:18 PM UTC

gear54rus wrote: post #8

dubcanada wrote: post #5

Anyone have any insight on why they removed autocomplete from username & password fields?

They removed the ability of a site maker to tell user if they should use password manager on their website. A much needed feature aka 'no, I do not care about password for your stupid site'.

IMO, what's even more annoying are sites that detect whether you've used a password manager to fill your credentials and then 1) won't log you in, 2) frequently require you to clear your cookies and 3) sometimes make you change your password.

Re: Firefox 38 released

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Post by portaljacker » Tue, May 12, 2015, 4:18 PM UTC

Touche wrote: post #7

> Mac OS X: Implemented a subset of the Media Source Extensions (MSE) API to allow native HTML5 playback on YouTube HTML5 > Implemented Encrypted Media Extensions (EME) API to support encrypted HTML5 video/audio playback (Windows Vista or later only) HTML5 > Automatically download Adobe Primetime Content Decryption Module (CDM) for DRM playback through EME (Windows Vista or later only) :( Notice which OSes are left o…

Does EME being implemented finally mean that I can uninstall Silverlight for watching Netflix in Firefox in the near future?

Re: Firefox 38 released

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Post by TazeTSchnitzel » Tue, May 12, 2015, 4:18 PM UTC

ramy_d wrote: post #11

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #9

> Ruby annotation support Finally! After only 24 years, East Asian languages get some attention. Perhaps next Western browser makers might consider vertical text support. sigh

the syntax is really confusing though. Duplicating characters? I thought it was hard to follow what would end up where https://hacks.mozilla.org/2015/03/ruby-support-in-firefox-de...

The syntax isn't that bad. It's written in a style that gracefully degrades: strip out the HTML tags, and it's perfectly readable, but the furigana shows up inline rather than above.

Portions are duplicated to ensure graceful degradation. You type 振り仮名(ふりがな) (with tags demarcating the sections, of course), repeating the り, so it'll show up properly if the browser lacks ruby text support. But if the browser does have ruby text support, it can hide the り from the furigana because it's redundant:

  振 仮名
  ふりがな

Re: Firefox 38 released

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Post by Touche » Tue, May 12, 2015, 4:19 PM UTC

portaljacker wrote: post #17

Touche wrote: post #7

> Mac OS X: Implemented a subset of the Media Source Extensions (MSE) API to allow native HTML5 playback on YouTube HTML5 > Implemented Encrypted Media Extensions (EME) API to support encrypted HTML5 video/audio playback (Windows Vista or later only) HTML5 > Automatically download Adobe Primetime Content Decryption Module (CDM) for DRM playback through EME (Windows Vista or later only) :( Notice which OSes are left o…

Does EME being implemented finally mean that I can uninstall Silverlight for watching Netflix in Firefox in the near future?

That depends on which OS you use.

Re: Firefox 38 released

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Post by mwfunk » Tue, May 12, 2015, 4:20 PM UTC

Touche wrote: post #7

> Mac OS X: Implemented a subset of the Media Source Extensions (MSE) API to allow native HTML5 playback on YouTube HTML5 > Implemented Encrypted Media Extensions (EME) API to support encrypted HTML5 video/audio playback (Windows Vista or later only) HTML5 > Automatically download Adobe Primetime Content Decryption Module (CDM) for DRM playback through EME (Windows Vista or later only) :( Notice which OSes are left o…

I'm not sure how this is any different from following the ongoing development of any other feature that requires platform-specific code to be written (WebGL, etc.). You will periodically see updates that only pertain to one platform or another, especially during bringup. No conspiracy there.