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Microsoft makes its case for Windows 10

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Re: Microsoft makes its case for Windows 10

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Post by BinaryIdiot »

Animats wrote: post #2

From the article: "Microsoft hopes to lure more people to use its new Windows 10 software on a variety of computers and gadgets by making it easy to use many of the same apps they’re already using on Apple or Android phones." That's a problem. I don't want to run phone apps on my desktop machine. I might want to be able to sync some things with my phone, but I have bigger jobs to do on the desktop machine than on the…

> I don't want to run phone apps on my desktop machine.

You won't. Microsoft's Android bridge is only going to work for the Windows Phone deployed version of Windows 10.

Re: Microsoft makes its case for Windows 10

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Post by BinaryIdiot »

higherpurpose wrote: post #7
craigvn wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows 10 will also run on phones and tablets so I think that is the audience for the apps, not the desktop.

Microsoft tend to make a lot of bold claims, but they rarely follow through or in the same way they promised . We'll see how that bold plan actually fleshes out in reality.

Hmm I'm trying to think of the last claim I've heard Microsoft made that they didn't follow through on. They've been actually really great especially in the past few years. Care to elaborate?

Re: Microsoft makes its case for Windows 10

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Post by m3talridl3y »

taylorlapeyre wrote: post #6

Until Windows supports and supplies bash + the gnu core utils by default, they will have a hard time getting me to switch.

I'd live to see Bash, in a terminal emulator that isn't terrible, with a working .bashrc file, on windows. Sadly they just don't get it.

Re: Microsoft makes its case for Windows 10

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Post by Retra »

rodgerd wrote: post #10
Animats wrote: post #2

From the article: "Microsoft hopes to lure more people to use its new Windows 10 software on a variety of computers and gadgets by making it easy to use many of the same apps they’re already using on Apple or Android phones." That's a problem. I don't want to run phone apps on my desktop machine. I might want to be able to sync some things with my phone, but I have bigger jobs to do on the desktop machine than on the…

> I don't want to run phone apps on my desktop machine. In some cases I might agree, in others... why can I have a game that runs on my phone but not play it on my desktop?

If you run it in a browser, you already get all that, don't you?

Re: Microsoft makes its case for Windows 10

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Post by rdtsc »

taylorlapeyre wrote: post #6

Until Windows supports and supplies bash + the gnu core utils by default, they will have a hard time getting me to switch.

Protip: Install Git for windows. Then instead of regular cmd console, you can right click on the folder and use "Git bash".

Not full on bash, but you get a better console with ssh, scp and a few other utilities.

Re: Microsoft makes its case for Windows 10

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Post by fphhotchips »

m3talridl3y wrote: post #13
taylorlapeyre wrote: post #6

Until Windows supports and supplies bash + the gnu core utils by default, they will have a hard time getting me to switch.

I'd live to see Bash, in a terminal emulator that isn't terrible, with a working .bashrc file, on windows. Sadly they just don't get it.

What's your criteria for a terminal emulator that isn't terrible? I have cygwin running bash with a working .bashrc file in MintTTY and that seems ok?

Re: Microsoft makes its case for Windows 10

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Post by hetman »

rdtsc wrote: post #15
taylorlapeyre wrote: post #6

Until Windows supports and supplies bash + the gnu core utils by default, they will have a hard time getting me to switch.

Protip: Install Git for windows. Then instead of regular cmd console, you can right click on the folder and use "Git bash". Not full on bash, but you get a better console with ssh, scp and a few other utilities.

You're probably better off installing standalone MSYS with something like mingw-get-installer which also gives you a convenient GUI for installing other common GNU/Unix utilities (and a somewhat crappy command line package manager). It even gives you a half decent terminal (in the form of mintty).

I tend to do most of my windows scripting using bash cause it's just less effort that way. Still, it's not a first class citizen like on Linux, and Microsoft seems to be going down it's own path with powershell (which at best gives a nod to the existence of things like bash, but not a lot more).

Re: Microsoft makes its case for Windows 10

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Post by Artemis2 »

BinaryIdiot wrote: post #12
higherpurpose wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft tend to make a lot of bold claims, but they rarely follow through or in the same way they promised . We'll see how that bold plan actually fleshes out in reality.

Hmm I'm trying to think of the last claim I've heard Microsoft made that they didn't follow through on. They've been actually really great especially in the past few years. Care to elaborate?

They may not always deliver in time, but they are coming through.
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