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Re: Ting Gigabit Fiber Internet

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Post by click170 » Sat, Apr 25, 2015, 7:20 PM UTC

lawl wrote: post #6

> Crazy fast How fast is crazy fast? Symmetric Gbit? How much does it cost? Can you use your own router? Net neutrality? This page really sucks. They should learn from fiber7[0] feature list and what to put on the website. [0] https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=h... (disclaimer: i'm a very happy fiber7 customer)

I agree, the page raises more questions than it answers.

I imagine that's because they don't have the answers to those questions yet and are trying to gauge interest in different areas before working out the details, but these days we're trained to spot and ignore PR pieces, and when such crucial details are lacking I have a tough time not ignoring such stories entirely.

I'll be waiting to make a comparison until there are details published and an established user base who can supply feedback about the provider's customer support quality and can verify the numbers in their marketing material.

Re: Ting Gigabit Fiber Internet

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Post by kirk21 » Sat, Apr 25, 2015, 7:20 PM UTC

In the Netherlands x% of a community had to sign up before they would roll out the system (to make sure that the ISP could recoup their costs). Am wondering if they plan to implement a similar system.

On a sidenote: the largest telco dropped the price A LOT to compete with the FTTH provider but this pissed ppl off because they knew they had been ripped off for several years.

Re: Ting Gigabit Fiber Internet

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Post by rayiner » Sat, Apr 25, 2015, 7:27 PM UTC

kirk21 wrote: post #12

In the Netherlands x% of a community had to sign up before they would roll out the system (to make sure that the ISP could recoup their costs). Am wondering if they plan to implement a similar system. On a sidenote: the largest telco dropped the price A LOT to compete with the FTTH provider but this pissed ppl off because they knew they had been ripped off for several years.

> In the Netherlands x% of a community had to sign up before they would roll out the system (to make sure that the ISP could recoup their costs).

In most U.S. cities, this is illegal.

In fact, Google got crucified when they did that originally for Fiber in Kansas City and a bunch of minority/low-income communities didn't make the list: http://www.wired.com/2012/09/google-fiber-digital-divide. Embarrassingly, the sign-up map was divided right along the road segregating black from white neighborhoods.

Even after Google lowered the sign-up requirements so more poor neighborhoods qualified, the sign-up rate for gigabit service was only 10% (and only another 5% for the free service). http://www.wsj.com/articles/google-fails-to-close-kansas-cit.... In most places, 30% is more like the target for what justifies build-out.

Re: Ting Gigabit Fiber Internet

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Post by shitlord » Sat, Apr 25, 2015, 7:29 PM UTC

jplahn wrote: post #7

I see the service has launched in Charlottesville. As a Virginia Tech Hokie, it's hard to stomach that the Hoos are getting if first, but in all seriousness, I think this is a great thing. That being said, there's a lot of information that seems to be missing. I'm not sure how excited to be about this until I see pricing.

I live in Charlottesville and I, as a student, don't know anyone who is dissatisfied with their ISP. This is mostly a college town, and I think the students are the ones who would benefit most from higher bandwidth. To me, they don't seem dissatisfied enough to switch.

Re: Ting Gigabit Fiber Internet

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Post by sitkack » Sat, Apr 25, 2015, 7:49 PM UTC

sp332 wrote: post #10

sfall wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

they are know for low cost cell phone service, and they are expanding into isp

Looks like Tucows is using the Ting divisions to do their next ISP project. They just bought an ISP.

I wouldn't be surprised they don't white label some ISPs (CenturyLink,Google Fiber) ? They execute pretty well.

I am ting customer.

Re: Ting Gigabit Fiber Internet

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Post by greggyb » Sat, Apr 25, 2015, 7:59 PM UTC

lawl wrote: post #6

> Crazy fast How fast is crazy fast? Symmetric Gbit? How much does it cost? Can you use your own router? Net neutrality? This page really sucks. They should learn from fiber7[0] feature list and what to put on the website. [0] https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=h... (disclaimer: i'm a very happy fiber7 customer)

Even if the answers to each of those falls on the side you consider negative, it is still beneficial to customers in an area for a new ISP to enter the market.

Re: Ting Gigabit Fiber Internet

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Post by greggyb » Sat, Apr 25, 2015, 8:03 PM UTC

smutticus wrote: post #5

It's an ISP. Am I missing something?

It's an ISP willing to enter markets with current broadband providers. This is rare in the US, and incredibly beneficial to customers.

As one of the lucky few living in a city with three competing broadband providers, I greatly appreciate the effects of competitive ISPs.

Re: Ting Gigabit Fiber Internet

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Post by jplahn » Sat, Apr 25, 2015, 8:03 PM UTC

shitlord wrote: post #14

jplahn wrote: post #7

I see the service has launched in Charlottesville. As a Virginia Tech Hokie, it's hard to stomach that the Hoos are getting if first, but in all seriousness, I think this is a great thing. That being said, there's a lot of information that seems to be missing. I'm not sure how excited to be about this until I see pricing.

I live in Charlottesville and I, as a student, don't know anyone who is dissatisfied with their ISP. This is mostly a college town, and I think the students are the ones who would benefit most from higher bandwidth. To me, they don't seem dissatisfied enough to switch.

That's intersting. I know in Blacksburg, if this was to come to town, people would switch en masse. Other than internet on campus, the quality is terrible.

Re: Ting Gigabit Fiber Internet

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Post by amendor » Sat, Apr 25, 2015, 8:12 PM UTC

Can't wait to see this in more cities.

Re: Ting Gigabit Fiber Internet

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Post by mikerichards » Sat, Apr 25, 2015, 8:24 PM UTC

Do these guys actually lay down fiber? If so, isn't that crazy expensive, and how does that work since it seems there's a limited amount of conduit space that can be used in cities, towns, neighborhoods, etc.. In other words, not everybody and their brother can just lay down fiber.