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Trapped into Selling Magazines Door-To-Door

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Re: Trapped into Selling Magazines Door-To-Door

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This really sucks, in fact many low-end sales jobs suck. And to cap it all off, some young smart-looking black kid actually interrupted me to sell stuff at my front-door whilst I was reading this article. How do you address something like this? It's hard to imagine there's so much competition for jobs at McDs or Chick Filet or Aldi (reputedly $12/hour+benefits), that smart-looking, communicative people would rather g…

>It's hard to imagine there's so much competition for jobs at McDs or Chick Filet or Aldi (reputedly $12/hour+benefits), that smart-looking, communicative people would rather go door to door selling magazine subscriptions.

When I was in High School I worked in fast food. 2-3 days a week we had people asking for applications - which we never accepted because we had a ton. These weren't teenagers either. I was shocked at how many people wanted to work there. This was in a fairly low income area - it was a job and people were looking for jobs.

Re: Trapped into Selling Magazines Door-To-Door

#12

This really sucks, in fact many low-end sales jobs suck. And to cap it all off, some young smart-looking black kid actually interrupted me to sell stuff at my front-door whilst I was reading this article. How do you address something like this? It's hard to imagine there's so much competition for jobs at McDs or Chick Filet or Aldi (reputedly $12/hour+benefits), that smart-looking, communicative people would rather g…

Unemployment rate >0

Re: Trapped into Selling Magazines Door-To-Door

#13

“I’ve been working on crews for three years, and I’ve been abandoned 11 times,” said Stephanie Dobbs, a mother of three who worked with another company, Young People Working, LLC, until being stranded in Cloverdale, Indiana, last month. “But I keep going back. I’ve got to do something to support my kids, and this is fast, easy cash if you’re a good seller.” Ummm... After getting abandoned 10 times, wouldn't you nix t…

Speaking generally rather than about any specifically identifiable person, many people in the United States told the scenario: "Your boss pays you 15% of Monday's sales of $200, Tuesday's sales of $1,200, Wednesday's sales of $450, Thursday's sales of $80, and Friday's sales of $1,500. He then awards you a bonus of $120 and subtracts $380 for expenses. How much money did you make?" with "Umm... a thousand dollars. Give or take. Good money. That's a heck of a lot more than I ever got paid at McDonalds, and they don't take out taxes or anything."

Life is a series of 4th grade math problems and, unfortunately for some people, 4th grade math remains difficult for them.

Re: Trapped into Selling Magazines Door-To-Door

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post #13

“I’ve been working on crews for three years, and I’ve been abandoned 11 times,” said Stephanie Dobbs, a mother of three who worked with another company, Young People Working, LLC, until being stranded in Cloverdale, Indiana, last month. “But I keep going back. I’ve got to do something to support my kids, and this is fast, easy cash if you’re a good seller.” Ummm... After getting abandoned 10 times, wouldn't you nix t…

Speaking generally rather than about any specifically identifiable person, many people in the United States told the scenario: "Your boss pays you 15% of Monday's sales of $200, Tuesday's sales of $1,200, Wednesday's sales of $450, Thursday's sales of $80, and Friday's sales of $1,500. He then awards you a bonus of $120 and subtracts $380 for expenses. How much money did you make?" with "Umm... a thousand dollars. Gi…

Try about a quarter of that.

Re: Trapped into Selling Magazines Door-To-Door

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Speaking generally rather than about any specifically identifiable person, many people in the United States told the scenario: "Your boss pays you 15% of Monday's sales of $200, Tuesday's sales of $1,200, Wednesday's sales of $450, Thursday's sales of $80, and Friday's sales of $1,500. He then awards you a bonus of $120 and subtracts $380 for expenses. How much money did you make?" with "Umm... a thousand dollars. Gi…

Try about a quarter of that.

> " 'Umm... a thousand dollars' ... unfortunately for some people, 4th grade math remains difficult for them."

patio11 himself was merely citing their misunderstanding.

Re: Trapped into Selling Magazines Door-To-Door

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“It’s not illegal to change a business name,” said Lisa Dilg of the Detroit BBB. “I don’t know how it’s legal, because it’s like hiding. But because it’s not illegal, there is no way to find out if the companies have been changing names and popping up in BBBs across the U.S. looking like they have no affiliation to each other.” This is a weak point in America's business culture, and there's an opportunity to engineer…

A joined up public database to track connections between company names and founders might be useful, but it certainly wouldn't stop corrupt organisations from marketing themselves as to ordinary people offering legitimate solutions. An organization with a reputation for being as laughably easy to buy off as the BBB isn't the answer either. I actually assumed the article would be about the Southwestern company, an org…

I sold books door-to-door in 1996 for Southwestern company. I don't know if they're a different kind of company today, but I must say it was one of the best experiences I've ever had.

Yes, it's true that you have to work 80 hours per week, in a town where you don't know anybody, and where you don't have a place to live (you actually have to knock on doors and find a place to live). I mean, it sounds crazy on paper, and over 50% of people quit, but if you can make it through the summer, you really learn a lot about yourself and what you're capable of.

Re: Trapped into Selling Magazines Door-To-Door

#17
> “Oh my God, can you grab him?” I shouted at the woman at the door, as my 3-month-old puppy darted out into the cold and I tried to stop my 6-year-old twins from following suit. She obliged, and I was able to get a proper look at her. It was in the 30s outside, unseasonably cold for Florida, and the young woman holding my squiggling puppy was wearing nothing but a light spring sweater, shivering and looking miserable. I invited her in. ... "

I fell asleep by the end of that paragraph - gimme the fac's, dude ...

Re: Trapped into Selling Magazines Door-To-Door

#18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A joined up public database to track connections between company names and founders might be useful, but it certainly wouldn't stop corrupt organisations from marketing themselves as to ordinary people offering legitimate solutions. An organization with a reputation for being as laughably easy to buy off as the BBB isn't the answer either. I actually assumed the article would be about the Southwestern company, an org…

I sold books door-to-door in 1996 for Southwestern company. I don't know if they're a different kind of company today, but I must say it was one of the best experiences I've ever had. Yes, it's true that you have to work 80 hours per week, in a town where you don't know anybody, and where you don't have a place to live (you actually have to knock on doors and find a place to live). I mean, it sounds crazy on paper, a…

Its all about getting outside of your comfort zone and doing something totally different. It forces you to made decisions that you would have to never make, and also to see the ramifications of those decisions. Kudos to you for experiencing it!

Re: Trapped into Selling Magazines Door-To-Door

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try about a quarter of that.

> " 'Umm... a thousand dollars' ... unfortunately for some people, 4th grade math remains difficult for them." patio11 himself was merely citing their misunderstanding.

Whoops.

    joke
    ----
    head

Re: Trapped into Selling Magazines Door-To-Door

#20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> " 'Umm... a thousand dollars' ... unfortunately for some people, 4th grade math remains difficult for them." patio11 himself was merely citing their misunderstanding.

Whoops. joke ---- head

I'm to steal joke/head. Do I need to cite it? :-)
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