assuming the story is accurate The sad part about cult mentality is that this post will probably just reinforce the dogma of the 'true' believers.
I Quit: What really goes on at Apple
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#12That's a lot of words to say Apple is a corporation and acts like many others. I guess the author expected it to be like an iPod commercial when he started.
even if half of what's in that post is true, it's unbelievably bad. i don't know where you were working, please share so the rest of us can avoid those work camps.
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#13RIP FoundationDB.
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#14One of my friends used to work at Apple. After one particular grueling stint of 14+ hour days, management decided to give them a thank-you. In the form of vouchers. For frozen dinners. Meanwhile, all of his friends worked for Google, we got gourmet food every meal of the week as a standard perk, and we were usually home by 8 or 9 PM rather than midnight. It's sorta like "Your 'thank you' is really more like a giant 'fuck you'".
He works for Google now.
My cousin also works for Apple, and after complaining about crunch time and how he had to check the bug queue when I was visiting him on a Saturday, I asked him "So, how long has crunch time lasted?" He replied, "Oh, about 18 months. Makes it really hard to date when I don't get any weekends." (He's in his 40s now, still no girlfriend.)
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#15I was interested in working at Apple so I messaged a few of my alum friends. All of them said they worked around 60 hours a week. Nope, can't pay me enough to work 60 hours a week.
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#16That's a lot of words to say Apple is a corporation and acts like many others. I guess the author expected it to be like an iPod commercial when he started.
Not true. Not all corporations are evil dystopian cults playing mind games and wasting everyone's time. It takes tremendous cash to fuel that kind of dysfunction. Most corporations cant afford to go off the rails to that degree.
Did someone say "ALL" corporations are evil dystopian cults? Someone said "many" though. Do you realize what is the difference between All and Many?
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#17I work for a small company while my wife works for a large corporation. She makes more than I do, but I work less hours and don't have to deal with the politics.
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#18Another perfect data point to add to Michael O`Church`s excellent series on the politics and psychology of the modern corporation. For you starry eyed youngsters, just remember that this is Apple, the world`s most profitable company. It only gets worse as you go down the list. Work for yourself. Consulting, the trades and any type of work you can do independently is far superior to dealing with wannabe Machiavellians…
please excuse me for pointing out that you sound like you've drunk the consulting kool-aid yourself. in my experience it's not in any imaginable way worse down the list no matter where you look.
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#19I would be interested to hear whether the culture in the engineering departments is similar to this.
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#20Would like to know which division the departing employee worked in, and how long he stuck it out. I personally liken companies to a large conglomeration of small organizations - your management chain really matters. Which is why when a respected manager leaves, sometimes his/her team leaves with them (HR flight risk). I know someone who worked (works?) at Apple - she moved from a difficult arguably acidic environment…
He says when you read what he wrote