It makes you wonder how many changes were made for "privacy" and how many changes were made for "protecting our business".
Is it necessarily an "either/or" situation here? This seems to me like an example of a "both/and".
Data is at the heart of search, but who has access to it?
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Re: Data is at the heart of search, but who has access to it?
#12It makes you wonder how many changes were made for "privacy" and how many changes were made for "protecting our business".
Is it necessarily an "either/or" situation here? This seems to me like an example of a "both/and".
That's fair. I just wonder which half was the selling point that made the change happen.
Re: Data is at the heart of search, but who has access to it?
#13At this point Google is not winning because it's search results are good (have you used Google recently?), it is winning because it makes almost 10x as much revenue as other search engines do per view -- at that rate any other search engine is running a charity.
Re: Data is at the heart of search, but who has access to it?
#14So does Mozilla's contract with Yahoo allow Mozilla to track query data and maybe feed it to underdog search engines like DDG or Blekko (oops)?
AFAIK ,the deal with yahoo was about putting yahoo search in the front. If it was about tracking Google search data - mozilla should have at least let people known, especially with their claim at protecting privacy. And if they lie ,they risk a very strong response, especially from developers they depend on. Also ,if such changes we're to be made, there's a decent likelihood that someone would have noticed that data…
I don't see any reason to doubt anything or for that matter give anyone "the benefit".
Firefox is still open source, unlike IE, Safari and Chrome, so just look.
Re: Data is at the heart of search, but who has access to it?
#15At this point Google is not winning because it's search results are good (have you used Google recently?), it is winning because it makes almost 10x as much revenue as other search engines do per view -- at that rate any other search engine is running a charity.
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Re: Data is at the heart of search, but who has access to it?
#16So, since Google tracks the full browsing experience of chrome users, and hence gets more relevant data than for other browsers users, it has the theoretical ability to offer better search results to chrome users.
Has anybody noticed this happening ?
Re: Data is at the heart of search, but who has access to it?
#17Re: Data is at the heart of search, but who has access to it?
#18At this point Google is not winning because it's search results are good (have you used Google recently?), it is winning because it makes almost 10x as much revenue as other search engines do per view -- at that rate any other search engine is running a charity.
It's really pretty weird. Google certainly has the capabilities to offer a great search experience, but it's very incosistent.
For example after learning i like the results of a certain journals ,their personalization engine offered me those in releated searches. and usually i chose content from them.
But somehow, after some time, Google's personalization engine forgot that i like them ,and stopped offering me content from them, so i'm back into drowning in shitty results. Why ? no idea why.
Re: Data is at the heart of search, but who has access to it?
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
AFAIK ,the deal with yahoo was about putting yahoo search in the front. If it was about tracking Google search data - mozilla should have at least let people known, especially with their claim at protecting privacy. And if they lie ,they risk a very strong response, especially from developers they depend on. Also ,if such changes we're to be made, there's a decent likelihood that someone would have noticed that data…
I don't see any reason to doubt anything or for that matter give anyone "the benefit". Firefox is still open source, unlike IE, Safari and Chrome, so just look.
Yes you're right. They probably couldn't do those games even if they wanted.
Re: Data is at the heart of search, but who has access to it?
#20So, since Google tracks the full browsing experience of chrome users, and hence gets more relevant data than for other browsers users, it has the theoretical ability to offer better search results to chrome users. Has anybody noticed this happening ?
(Tedious disclaimer: my opinion, not my employers. Not representing anybody else. I work at Google, not on chrome)
Google does not "track the full browsing experience of chrome users". Please read the privacy policy which is very clear on this subject: https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/privacy/
I particularly draw your attention to this paragraph: "If you use Chrome to access other Google services, such as using the search engine on the Google homepage or checking Gmail, the fact that you are using Chrome does not cause Google to receive any special or additional personally identifying information about you."