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$1B TSA Behavioral Screening Program Slammed as Ineffective Junk Science

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Re: $1B TSA Behavioral Screening Program Slammed as Ineffective Junk Science

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So this is codified racial-profiling and intuition-profiling (that singles out people with dreadlocks, arabs, sick people, stressed people etc.) unlike all other un-codified profiling employed by virtually all agents of all border security things all over the planet. If you don't believe me, try flying visually sick and you'll be questioned over and over again (not about being sick or having ebola, mind you).

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I've observed the horrible nature of this program in person while traveling. During the practice, the TSA staff talked loudly to threaten passengers and then also made "jokes" to passengers about finding chemicals on them. Essentially they try to escalate the fear among all the passengers and then single out someone who responds the most poorly. Not to mention the fact that anyone who has protested or complained about any of these controversial programs are being targeted without any basis. Psychological warfare is being conducted on American soil against innocent Americans.

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Maybe someone should suggest the study of physiognomy to the TSA. Over a hundred yrs ago, they could already determine intellect, moral fortitude and other important parameters just by looking at a human's face and skull form. Had the term “terrorist” been invented by then, they would have doubtlessly detected that, too.

So we may just as well say, the TSA is about 100 yrs out of date. But then, not letting people board a plane because you don't like their nose or the way they scratch their head is the only hope of fighting “terror” that we have, isn't it?

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post #11

So this is codified racial-profiling and intuition-profiling (that singles out people with dreadlocks, arabs, sick people, stressed people etc.) unlike all other un-codified profiling employed by virtually all agents of all border security things all over the planet. If you don't believe me, try flying visually sick and you'll be questioned over and over again (not about being sick or having ebola, mind you).

That's why whenever I'm crossing the US border I put on a button-up shirt and some nice shoes. Coupled with a EU passport, the effect is marvelous. When I'm going for anything under two months, they let me through with as little as a 30 second conversation.

(it also helps that I've got a business visa that says I can stay for 6months at a time)

Re: $1B TSA Behavioral Screening Program Slammed as Ineffective Junk Science

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Maybe someone should suggest the study of physiognomy to the TSA. Over a hundred yrs ago, they could already determine intellect, moral fortitude and other important parameters just by looking at a human's face and skull form. Had the term “terrorist” been invented by then, they would have doubtlessly detected that, too. So we may just as well say, the TSA is about 100 yrs out of date. But then, not letting people bo…

> Had the term “terrorist” been invented by then, they would have doubtlessly detected that, too.

Craniology was capable of detecting "Jewish race", so it should probably work with a similar accuracy as the other TSA measures… /s

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I'm just glad that I seem to have passed through whatever set of factors that caused me to be "randomly" selected every time I entered the US for years on end.

Do you usually dress the same, and go through the full body scanners? My wife was upset that she got patted down every time at logan, and then she looked at the display and found out that the TSA didn't like the buttons on the hoodie she liked to fly in. Now she just wears the grey one instead of the red one and flies through every time.

This happened pre-TSA and pre-body scanners too.

Literally every time I went UK->US 1996 to 2010 I got "randomly" selected by some/all of immigration, security, and customs. I can only assume I looked/behaved dodgy in some way, was on some kind of list, or was just darn unlucky!

Incidents within the EU. Zero.

I've only just got the point where I've stopped scheduling a couple of extra hours of security-slack into my travel schedule ;-)

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Sadly there isn't one good site running with this story so I am not sure how we get the facts in the case. It seems the one problem standing in the way of getting the facts is the TSA itself; an agency whose screeners may soon be armed

Armed screeners? That's ridiculous. I don't hear too many stories of shoot outs at the airport. The last thing we need is to turn TSA screeners into a police force. Customs agents are often armed, but they are trained law enforcement as opposed to the misfits making $10 per how searching for smuggled barbecue sauce in a carry on.

What about machetes and Molotov cocktails?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/03/21/new-orl...

I don't think the TSA agents should be armed, but I'm sure everyone (even the TSA agents) were happy deputy Slyve was.

Re: $1B TSA Behavioral Screening Program Slammed as Ineffective Junk Science

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Armed screeners? That's ridiculous. I don't hear too many stories of shoot outs at the airport. The last thing we need is to turn TSA screeners into a police force. Customs agents are often armed, but they are trained law enforcement as opposed to the misfits making $10 per how searching for smuggled barbecue sauce in a carry on.

What about machetes and Molotov cocktails? http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/03/21/new-orl... I don't think the TSA agents should be armed, but I'm sure everyone (even the TSA agents) were happy deputy Slyve was.

At every airport screening point I've been to there's always been at least 1 deputy there on post. I feel that is sufficient. The tsa screeners are not the kind of people I would trust with a firearm.
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