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Three out of four Ferguson residents have arrest warrants

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Re: Three out of four Ferguson residents have arrest warrants

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I'm not sure, but was there a leap here from the number of arrest warrants issued, to the number of Ferguson residents that have arrest warrants against them? Perhaps most of those warrants are for people not living in Ferguson? (Might be living in nearby areas, or that were passing through?) Not that this detracts from the shock. Even if it's mostly warrants of people passing through the town, that is horrifying.

The DOJ report does not specify the implication made in the article (it's discussed on page 58 of the pdf, document page 55). It only states that there are 16,000 outstanding warrants.

It takes a dim view of the warrants though:

The large number of warrants issued by the court, by any count, is due exclusively to the fact that the court uses arrest warrants and the threat of arrest as its primary tool for collecting outstanding fines for municipal code violations. With extremely limited exceptions, every warrant issued by the Ferguson municipal court was issued because: 1) a person missed consecutive court appearances, or 2) a person missed a single required fine payment as part of a payment plan. Under current court policy, the court issues a warrant in every case where either of those circumstances arises — regardless of the severity of the code violation that the case involves. Indeed, the court rarely issues a warrant for any other purpose. FPD does not request arrest or any other kind of warrants from the Ferguson municipal court ; in fact, FPD officers told us that they have been instructed not to file warrant applications with the municipal court because the court does not have the capacity to consider them.

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>the real problem which is income inequality and poverty We don't really know what "the real problem" is. Something big is going on, and I agree it's not simply about racism. I am seeing similar things in my city, and it's white and wealthy. As with most things, I think it has to do with money. Police are paid to enforce the law, but no-one is paid to keep the police in check. As the article says, there's ~20k cities…

I was worried this submission would get deleted for being irrelevant, but I'm glad others have picked up on the theme here.

There is a market for justice, but more importantly hacking is about systems; breaking them, securing them, improving them. What we see here is a system breaking down in the wild, and that sparked my interest as a hacker.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>the real problem which is income inequality and poverty We don't really know what "the real problem" is. Something big is going on, and I agree it's not simply about racism. I am seeing similar things in my city, and it's white and wealthy. As with most things, I think it has to do with money. Police are paid to enforce the law, but no-one is paid to keep the police in check. As the article says, there's ~20k cities…

I was worried this submission would get deleted for being irrelevant, but I'm glad others have picked up on the theme here. There is a market for justice, but more importantly hacking is about systems; breaking them, securing them, improving them. What we see here is a system breaking down in the wild, and that sparked my interest as a hacker.

Yes it's cool to see how systems fail, but it's even better if you do that and have some sort of solution. "If you show a man a pile of shit, you should also show him a shovel."

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was worried this submission would get deleted for being irrelevant, but I'm glad others have picked up on the theme here. There is a market for justice, but more importantly hacking is about systems; breaking them, securing them, improving them. What we see here is a system breaking down in the wild, and that sparked my interest as a hacker.

Yes it's cool to see how systems fail, but it's even better if you do that and have some sort of solution. "If you show a man a pile of shit, you should also show him a shovel."

You're totally right and I think your idea could help.

Somethething else that could help is cheap, decentralized forms of communication. If we want to enable real momentum for change, people need to be able to talk to each other without fear that every word is easily traced back to their government issued identity.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was worried this submission would get deleted for being irrelevant, but I'm glad others have picked up on the theme here. There is a market for justice, but more importantly hacking is about systems; breaking them, securing them, improving them. What we see here is a system breaking down in the wild, and that sparked my interest as a hacker.

Yes it's cool to see how systems fail, but it's even better if you do that and have some sort of solution. "If you show a man a pile of shit, you should also show him a shovel."

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