Well, guess my Linode's getting rebooted again.
If they have one spare xen host they can live migrate all guests from one host to the spare, patch the original host, reboot, then live migrate the spare's guests back to the original, and repeat. Patching them all and rebooting them all at once might be quicker though.
Xen hypervisor memory corruption due to x86 emulator flaw
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Re: Xen hypervisor memory corruption due to x86 emulator flaw
#12Well, guess my Linode's getting rebooted again.
If they have one spare xen host they can live migrate all guests from one host to the spare, patch the original host, reboot, then live migrate the spare's guests back to the original, and repeat. Patching them all and rebooting them all at once might be quicker though.
Re: Xen hypervisor memory corruption due to x86 emulator flaw
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Well, guess my Linode's getting rebooted again. Things happen. We should be glad that these sort of security problems are being found and addressed; it would be naive to believe Xen or any other large codebase has zero security problems. VM's should be regularly patched anyway, which usually requires a reboot now and then. If it were a physical server, the same would be true; just because things are in the "cloud"…
Not to mention, my physical servers take ages to reboot considering all the BIOS and RAID checking they do. My Linodes, being VMs, literally boot in like 10 or 15 seconds. Maybe less. That's really minor downtime. My HP DL380s take several minutes. You can't migrate to a new kernel on Linode without a reboot anyway, so if you're proud of a 12+ month uptime, you're running a vulernable kernel.
Re: Xen hypervisor memory corruption due to x86 emulator flaw
#14Well, guess my Linode's getting rebooted again.
> Well, guess my Linode's getting rebooted again. Things happen. We should be glad that these sort of security problems are being found and addressed; it would be naive to believe Xen or any other large codebase has zero security problems. VM's should be regularly patched anyway, which usually requires a reboot now and then. If it were a physical server, the same would be true; just because things are in the "cloud"…
Re: Xen hypervisor memory corruption due to x86 emulator flaw
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Well, guess my Linode's getting rebooted again. Things happen. We should be glad that these sort of security problems are being found and addressed; it would be naive to believe Xen or any other large codebase has zero security problems. VM's should be regularly patched anyway, which usually requires a reboot now and then. If it were a physical server, the same would be true; just because things are in the "cloud"…
Depends. My physical server isn't shared with anyone. Most local exploits are not a particular worry. A security vuln, almost by definition, requires a shared resource. No sharing, no caring.
> A security vuln, almost by definition, requires a shared resource. No sharing, no caring
You would only not care if your servers have zero access to the internet and are air-gaped from the rest of your network (even then it's been proven some vulnerabilities can be exploited to gain access).
Re: Xen hypervisor memory corruption due to x86 emulator flaw
#16Well, guess my Linode's getting rebooted again.
I discussed it in detail previously on HN [0], but we give you the ability to live-migrate your workloads, even onto heterogeneous kernels. If that's something you really need, you can get it from Terminal today.
Re: Xen hypervisor memory corruption due to x86 emulator flaw
#17Well, guess my Linode's getting rebooted again.
If you're really worried about having to deal with reboots, you can run Terminal on top of Linode and gain the ability to live-migrate all of your workloads (so you never have to take down your application because of the underlying metal rebooting). I discussed it in detail previously on HN [0], but we give you the ability to live-migrate your workloads, even onto heterogeneous kernels. If that's something you really…
Re: Xen hypervisor memory corruption due to x86 emulator flaw
#18Re: Xen hypervisor memory corruption due to x86 emulator flaw
#19This bug's existence and its patch have already made some worried. From the Qubes OS developers: [1] Additional thoughts by Qubes Security Team =========================================== We see several problems that concern us about this vulnerability and patching process: 1) It seems really difficult to understand why would anybody design a structure like the one shown above, which uses a union to store two, RADICA…
Does anyone know why KVM would be considered less secure than Xen?
Re: Xen hypervisor memory corruption due to x86 emulator flaw
#20Why is that Xen seems to have so many security issues compare to KVM?