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Re: Google Contributor

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post #3

Must Google do everything?

Google runs the largest advertising network on the web.

They already pay for much of the content you see online.

Only they have the ability to say "pay $1-$3 a month, and we'll replace those ads with a thank you", and have it actually affect a significant fraction of what you see.

Re: Google Contributor

#12
I like the idea of giving users a painless way to donate to the sites they use. And giving thank-yous in place of advertising is a good way to reduce the incentive to freeload.

I do worry that $1-3 a month is much lower than the value I get from the sites I visit, and consequently not enough to support low-traffic sites that should be supported. They also didn't mention how they distribute your money - equally to all the sites you visit? Proportionally to the number of visits? On a related note, can participating sites choose to eliminate ads only if a user will contribute enough money to them, or must they eliminate ads for every contributor in order to participate at all?

But the real question is, will google.com itself accept Contributor money? And will it eliminate ads for contributors?

Re: Google Contributor

#13
post #9

"As a reminder of your support, you’ll see a thank you message - often accompanied by a pixel pattern - where you might normally see an ad." Why not remove the frame entirely for participants? Since each website has to opt-in to this, I can't see why they wouldn't be able to remove ads "transparently" (ie without the user ever knowing they were there)

Don't underestimate the psychological value of reminding people that they've done something they want to feel good about. As long as it doesn't add to page load time, a reminder saying "thanks for donating to support this page via Google Contributor" in place of an ad helps keep this program in people's minds, keep them willing to pay, and help them think about it at some time other than when they see the cost charged.

Re: Google Contributor

#14
post #9

"As a reminder of your support, you’ll see a thank you message - often accompanied by a pixel pattern - where you might normally see an ad." Why not remove the frame entirely for participants? Since each website has to opt-in to this, I can't see why they wouldn't be able to remove ads "transparently" (ie without the user ever knowing they were there)

Presumably because the specifically-sized iframe might be part of the site's design, and Google doesn't want to muck with it if the site designer might have been too lazy to foresee the problem (because Google would be the one getting blamed.)

They could obviously tell the site the ad should disappear with a JS event or somesuch, though, at which point the DOM can rewire itself.

Re: Google Contributor

#15
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a great thing for Google to do, I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

I take it as saying something like "why does it have to be Google that does this; someone should have done this a long time ago", maybe. Google starts a lot of cool projects, it'd be neat to see other companies taking the same initiative in certain areas (I'm sure there are, I just am not well versed in that area).

I don't know of any other companies who control as many display ads on the web, which can be replaced by a "thank you for donating."

There already are other similar services, like Flattr, but it becomes hard to ensure that you get a steady revenue stream by serving ads to some people and getting donations from others, and being able to turn off the ads for those people who donate.

Re: Google Contributor

#17
post #9

"As a reminder of your support, you’ll see a thank you message - often accompanied by a pixel pattern - where you might normally see an ad." Why not remove the frame entirely for participants? Since each website has to opt-in to this, I can't see why they wouldn't be able to remove ads "transparently" (ie without the user ever knowing they were there)

It might be for technical simplicity: this method requires no more work from the site designers, who are often contractors or otherwise expensive, and off the top of my head I don't know how they could do this kind of disabling on the client side without allowing someone to make a plugin that tricks the site into thinking it is in addless mode.

Re: Google Contributor

#18
post #12

I like the idea of giving users a painless way to donate to the sites they use. And giving thank-yous in place of advertising is a good way to reduce the incentive to freeload. I do worry that $1-3 a month is much lower than the value I get from the sites I visit, and consequently not enough to support low-traffic sites that should be supported. They also didn't mention how they distribute your money - equally to all…

I assume that you will pay the same way an advertiser would pay - by bidding for the space. If your bid exceeds the bids of anyone else trying to advertise there, nothing will be shown. Otherwise you'll be shown an ad as normal.

Re: Google Contributor

#20
The pricing denomination is set both too high and too low at the same time, depending on whom we're talking about. The whole idea of micropayments to support, for instance, content creators was to generally envision a transactional denomination far below $1 -- hence the word "micro." Since even this really never got off the ground in any significant way, isn't it a stretch to imagine that $1/month is a low enough psychological barrier-to-entry for most average consumers. Similarly, for those true supporter zealots, is limiting the top end to $3/month logical? Why should it be limited at all?
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