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Canadian Charged for Not Unlocking Smartphone at Canadian Border

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Re: Canadian Charged for Not Unlocking Smartphone at Canadian Border

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post #7

The idea of nations and borders is one the time for has passed. I personally don't care what invisible, made-up lines you were born within or without. Do you?

It's currently being abused and an excuse for search and seizure. And I agree, I care about everyone equally and want everyone to be treated kindly and fairly. Most government is corrupted by capitalism functioning at its extremities.

Re: Canadian Charged for Not Unlocking Smartphone at Canadian Border

#12
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They can read through the person's text messages to look for evidence of illegal activities. This happened to one of my friends while trying to enter the US, and she was given a 10 year ban from entering the US because of things written in her text messages. They essentially accused her of trying to engage in immigration fraud because she had texted with one of her friends some jokes about getting married for a green…

I'm guessing they knew the text messages existed before they requested to see the phone.

No, they did not know it existed. I'm sure they suspected something (no idea why), but they just pulled over her entire family's car, and did a blanket search. She was on H1B, so she lost her job and had to fly back to Asia with nothing except the clothes she packed for a weekend road trip to Canada.

Re: Canadian Charged for Not Unlocking Smartphone at Canadian Border

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They can read through the person's text messages to look for evidence of illegal activities. This happened to one of my friends while trying to enter the US, and she was given a 10 year ban from entering the US because of things written in her text messages. They essentially accused her of trying to engage in immigration fraud because she had texted with one of her friends some jokes about getting married for a green…

I'm guessing they knew the text messages existed before they requested to see the phone.

Why? I've been stopped entering the US for similar reasons, and they searched everything. Read every piece of paper, they even switched on my camera and flicked through the pictures asking me questions about what they found, they didn't search my phone but only because they didn't run across it during the search (my backpack has very many pockets, and they missed a few).

I have no doubt at all that they routinely search through people's phones, laptops, tablets, and similar. And if you watch those Passport Patrol style shows where they film in immigration/customs, you can see it is common on there too.

Re: Canadian Charged for Not Unlocking Smartphone at Canadian Border

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There is no reason anyone should search a phone, because anyone smuggling "illegal data" can just transfer it directly over the internet undetected. This is horrible and ridiculous.

Whether its right or wrong, I imagine it's a way to catch low hanging fruit.

Re: Canadian Charged for Not Unlocking Smartphone at Canadian Border

#16
post #7

The idea of nations and borders is one the time for has passed. I personally don't care what invisible, made-up lines you were born within or without. Do you?

The idea of nations and borders is one the time for has passed.

Agreed, but the tail of that particular dinosaur is going to do some horrific damage as it thrashes around in the tarpit. Nation-states are becoming more powerful at the same time they're becoming less useful and less necessary.

Re: Canadian Charged for Not Unlocking Smartphone at Canadian Border

#17
Customs officials forcing you to unlock your phone is not just an invasion of privacy - it's a pointless invasion of privacy. Customs agents don't even know where to start in finding data that a user wants hidden.

Even if allowed access to personal devices, data is slippery enough that it could be stored in almost anything. Here's yet another example of taking away rights in a way that does nothing to deter actual crime. Hopefully the court understands technology enough to make the right call, but I'm not counting on it.

Re: Canadian Charged for Not Unlocking Smartphone at Canadian Border

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post #7

The idea of nations and borders is one the time for has passed. I personally don't care what invisible, made-up lines you were born within or without. Do you?

Actually, yes I do. I care that I was not born inside the invisible lines of an oppressive regime. I'm also sure there are many women who are glad they weren't born in the invisible lines comprising India. There are many other examples.

Considering the amount of rights you posses correlate directly to what invisible lines you're currently in, I think just about everybody cares, actually. Until nation states actually go away, they are very much important.

Re: Canadian Charged for Not Unlocking Smartphone at Canadian Border

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There is no reason anyone should search a phone, because anyone smuggling "illegal data" can just transfer it directly over the internet undetected. This is horrible and ridiculous.

You could, but if you watch some episodes of "border security" you'll see that they catch people doing illegal stuff all the time by searching their phones. Usually it's illegally working (which obviously wouldn't apply in this case). However they also are looking for child porn, which may be been why they wanted to search this guy's phone.
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