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Re: Show HN: Slack Meets GitHub Issues

#11
the loopz seems to be a cool concept. Still I'm not sure what problem you are solving:the website doesnt help me to understand anything and only the blog post helped.

btw I'm in a similar situation : 34 with 2 kids + one on the way and I'm almost out of money after investing on my 2nd startup. You shouldn't see this as a desperate situation but as a challenge with an opportunity to focus on what really matters ( in your life and in your company ). Good luck ;)

Re: Show HN: Slack Meets GitHub Issues

#12
Good luck, I used to live in the NE of England (hence why this is the first Show HN I have actually looked at.

Maybe is all the front page HN traffic (or my slow connection). But after 30 seconds of waiting for the page to load, I was greeted with a..... blank page.

sigh maybe it was a timeout, or maybe I really must allow JS to see anything on the page. Maybe this is just me, this annoys me and if a site won't display SOMETHING without JS I leave, but a fellow NE Englander, I will make an allowance.

Anyway, am another one man shop, so don't really need a communication tool. But did the same as you couple of years before, no actually a few years ago now. Quit job / in the 30s / with family to go out on my own.

As you said STOP CODING AND START PROMOTING. It is hard the knockbacks hurt, but whore yourself to all potential customers. You do know who you potential customers are, don't you? Find where they are and do all you can to get them on board. If it is a forum, offer some respected members full free access, people like free things, get them to talk about it.

Learn marketing / seo. Yes it is the spawn of the devil and all marketeers should kill themselves, but you have mouths to feed, morals go out the window.

Again, good luck

Re: Show HN: Slack Meets GitHub Issues

#13
Unfiltered First impressions:

Your medium article is 50X better than your website. Your website is useless for promoting your product. I don't like the headline font for your site, the lack of screenshots, basically the lack of focus on a product that will live or die on its usability and interface. I'm not a fan of the Z in openloopz. Combined with the comic sansy looking headline font it doesn't feel polished.

The inventing of a new words ("loops") is to be avoided unless absolutely necessary. You are now not only trying to tell a (very) mildly interested reader about your product you need them to learn a new language in order to understand it. This is an unrealistic cognitive burden for a sales pitch for a todo app. I strongly suggest that you use the simplest possible terms in plain language to describe the focus of your product, how it fits into the users life, and what problems it solves for them.

Your post here is more focused on your personal suffering than on your product. We are all eating shit to try to launch our companies, but too much focus on that makes for a downer intro to your product. I'd try to separate your moments of sharing the struggle and the moments of sharing the product. Do you want people to be genuinely excited about it, or pity you? Which emotion do you want to be a stronger first response?

Scanning further over your medium article (It's longer than a casual browser will give it time, ie 5 seconds) I suggest you take whatever the salient feature of your product is, maybe the hashtagging to create inline tasks and put that front and center in a huge picture and font. I'm still not sure what problem you are solving or who you are competing with, is it todo lists, slack, what? Where does this tool fit in my life? I suggest you take a look at the way that slack conveys information https://slack.com/is/team-communication (notice even the url hammers home their function).

I think that honest feedback is very imporant and that your main problem here, which is something that affects us all, is that you are too close to the product. You already understand it, you speak its language (invented words and all), and you are now longer able to communicate it to the passing man in the street. I suggest workshoping your pitch and language with fresh ears constantly until you are able to get someone to understand the basics of what it is and how it helps them in 10 seconds or less. All that said, I'm rooting for you, best of luck!

Re: Show HN: Slack Meets GitHub Issues

#14
post #6

Just a note: if you go to http://openloopz.com (no "www") it displays "Heroku | No such app". I'm guessing you mean to redirect to the "www" subdomain.

yeah...heroku is weird about naked domains. you need to use a DNS provider like DNSimple to set up your domain correctly with Heroku. Then your users will be able to drop the "www". This worked for my side project, konkourse.com.

References: https://devcenter.heroku.com/articles/apex-domains.

Re: Show HN: Slack Meets GitHub Issues

#15
Definitely seems like an interesting idea, I like what you are trying to do here.

One thing you might want to do is update your dns so that your app also answers on openloopz.com.

Currently you receive a heroku message stating "There is no app configured at that hostname. Perhaps the app owner has renamed it, or you mistyped the URL."

Re: Show HN: Slack Meets GitHub Issues

#16
Design wise it looks fine, but I feel the page doesn't do a very good job at explaining what it is and why should I be interested. I got it after reading the blog post, so I would suggest to condense that information and make it glanceable/scanable in the main page (that is to say, the visitor should be able to understand what is it and why is it useful without having to read much).

Take a look for example at the landing page of stripe dedicated to bitcoin: https://stripe.com/bitcoin — in less than 10 seconds I can get what is it about (and even how to integrate it) and I didn't have to read or watch a video. That's more or less what you should aim for so completely new visitors can go "oh, this cool, I could use it, let me signup". As it stands right now, your copy (keep friends in the loop, communicate better and get things done quicker) isn't very compelling to get someone to sign up.

Also, what is your target group? For example, do you expect the product to be used mainly by developers and makers? Because in that case the main page should be tailored to speak to them (the current copy, imo, doesn't, too generic to get a dev excited).

Does the name need to be OpenLoopz? To me the z there makes it sounds like a product for kids and not very professional. Personally I'd consider going for another brand if it's possible at all.

Resolving these issues won't get you users and customers overnight, but I think it'd put the product in a much better position to start.

Re: Show HN: Slack Meets GitHub Issues

#17
post #13

Unfiltered First impressions: Your medium article is 50X better than your website. Your website is useless for promoting your product. I don't like the headline font for your site, the lack of screenshots, basically the lack of focus on a product that will live or die on its usability and interface. I'm not a fan of the Z in openloopz. Combined with the comic sansy looking headline font it doesn't feel polished. The…

Ditto all this. I haven't read the Medium post, but just looking at the website: I have no idea what it is or what it does for me, and I'm being asked to sign-up first thing. Further reading still doesn't answer any questions.

Honestly, it'd be a miracle for anyone to look at the website and decide they need to sign up. Not because the product isn't amazing. But because I have no idea what it is and I'm not in the habit of signing up for services if I don't know what they are. That's how you get Cat Facts.

EDIT:

Also, you need an Editor really badly. I don't mean to be a dick about it. But this is your family's welfare on the line. Find someone hyper-critical to tear your writing.

ie:

> What is OpenLoopz? > OpenLoopz makes it easy to manage and share your digital content online, as well as helping you get things done quicker and communicate better!

I've just tuned out. That sentence is as empty and as much bullshit as they come. A very direct question was asked and you disrespected my time. You could be describing Facebook for all I know.

If you want your site to be compelling: Be Brief. Every word needs to tell me something useful and important. Your broadcast is all noise and no signal right now.

Anyone saying the Medium post is good: Don't believe them. It's better. But that'd be difficult not to do. It's still completely useless for moving units. People are just being kind.

Get an editor. If there's one rule you need to follow, it's brevity. Brevity. BREVITY. It's not rocket science. This isn't beyond you. You aren't doomed to failure. Be brief. Be critical. You've failed at communicating your product's worth. Now try again. Not tomorrow. Today.

And don't let perfect be the enemy of good. It's not going to take you a week to fix this. Limit yourself to 400 words, and some screen shots. Fix it today. After that's done, keep iterating. Revise revise revise until you have the perfect 400 words and can't think of how to improve it further. Then find someone who can.

Good luck!

Re: Show HN: Slack Meets GitHub Issues

#18
post #13

Unfiltered First impressions: Your medium article is 50X better than your website. Your website is useless for promoting your product. I don't like the headline font for your site, the lack of screenshots, basically the lack of focus on a product that will live or die on its usability and interface. I'm not a fan of the Z in openloopz. Combined with the comic sansy looking headline font it doesn't feel polished. The…

Seriously, I would kill the content on your website and replace it with what is in the Medium post. It's 50x clearer. I read your website copy like 3x and still had no idea what openloop is.

Re: Show HN: Slack Meets GitHub Issues

#19
post #13

Unfiltered First impressions: Your medium article is 50X better than your website. Your website is useless for promoting your product. I don't like the headline font for your site, the lack of screenshots, basically the lack of focus on a product that will live or die on its usability and interface. I'm not a fan of the Z in openloopz. Combined with the comic sansy looking headline font it doesn't feel polished. The…

Harsh, but pretty good feedback.

Re: Show HN: Slack Meets GitHub Issues

#20
post #13

Unfiltered First impressions: Your medium article is 50X better than your website. Your website is useless for promoting your product. I don't like the headline font for your site, the lack of screenshots, basically the lack of focus on a product that will live or die on its usability and interface. I'm not a fan of the Z in openloopz. Combined with the comic sansy looking headline font it doesn't feel polished. The…

The Z thing is killer. It puts you in company with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsez, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bratz, and numberless rappers, none of which make a professional impression.
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