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Computing is too easy

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Re: Computing is too easy

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There's one of these articles every few weeks. I'd argue that the response has been the "maker" movement, built around Arduino and Raspberry Pi. People also need to distinguish between "you have to tinker in order to use the thing" and "you can tinker if you need to". Old cars were more tinkerable and less reliable.

Old cars were more tinkerable and less reliable.

Reliability is a curve; a function of how much maintenance is spent on it.

No question at all that a modern car with zero maintenance will be more reliable than an old car was with zero maintenance. But with a surprisingly small amount of maintenance, an old can can be more reliable than a modern car with the same amount of maintenance. Sure, it'll take a while before one of them fails, but I can (and do) keep a thirty year old car running with maintenance that probably averages to about ten minutes a week. I suspect very strongly that if I spent ten minutes a week maintaining a modern car (which, from what I can tell, would be me looking at the lights on the dashboard to see if the car is asking for more water or oil), it would fail before the old car did.

Re: Computing is too easy

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I agree with the article. The differences between 10 year old me on my Commodore 64 and my currently 10 year old son on his Windows 7 computer are astronomical. When I turned my 64 on it was "READY" for me to make it do something. I spent days typing in BASIC and 6502 Assembly source code into it just to play a game. My son has a seemingly infinite supply of videos on YouTube to entertain him. Near infinite supply of free-to-play ready made games (with in-app purchases). There is no natural incentive for him to learn how to produce anything on computers.

Re: Computing is too easy

#13
It's not. Everything is disconnected from everything, everything requires me to learn a new GUI, my devices are actively preventing me from doing things I want, using data gives me a headache, my tools don't tell me what they can do, making apps is complex, I need to use a 1970s interface to do anything remotely, my Chrome tabs crash all the time, my Android apps crash all the time, iOS is too slow to know whether it's crashed. Computing has become a little superficial in the way we use it, superficial is easy, but anything else is way too hard.

Re: Computing is too easy

#14
Evolution, progress, the march of the human race has fundamentally been enabled by our ability to efficiently abstract and encapsulate complexity into building blocks that form the next leap forwards in the advancement of science, knowledge etc. Complexity should only be by necessity not forced on everyone. its just progress

Re: Computing is too easy

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post #2

> Our laptops are sleek and polished. Our operating systems are fluid and intuitive. This is clearly a joke. And a cruel one. Laptops are just two steps away from overheating and falling apart no matter how much glue they put in these days. And operating systems are laggy and messy. They have still 50% of laggines and 90% of messiness of what was the standard two decades ago.

You are viewing the world through rose-tinted glasses if you think OSes were better twenty years ago.

Re: Computing is too easy

#16

Computing isn't too easy, it's too hard, and modern systems aren't contributing a solution, they are just glossing it over with their crippled tools. Not just crippled tools for office workers, also crippled tools for programmers and artists. Some things might not be possible to fix. Teaching people to RTFM, for instance. No search engine will be able to replace consistent and comprehensive documentation written by t…

Some things might not be possible to fix. Teaching people to RTFM, for instance. No search engine will be able to replace consistent and comprehensive documentation written by the people who know the system intimately, but it's hard to convince most users, many developers, even, that this is actually worth the effort it takes, both to read and write." This is compounded by the trend toward instant gratification in pr…

The problem is: there's too many manuals. We don't have time to read them all.

In fact, I think one of the skills you learn as you gain experience in software development is choosing your moments. When you can just google it, and when you need to get a cup of coffee and RTFM.

Re: Computing is too easy

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post #12

I agree with the article. The differences between 10 year old me on my Commodore 64 and my currently 10 year old son on his Windows 7 computer are astronomical. When I turned my 64 on it was "READY" for me to make it do something. I spent days typing in BASIC and 6502 Assembly source code into it just to play a game. My son has a seemingly infinite supply of videos on YouTube to entertain him. Near infinite supply of…

I also agree. Today we need people who can miss the forest for the trees! I can't believe the lack of basic computer skills that people have coming into the workforce and someone that can use Word is considered a computer person. Even the new IT people only know GUI and Microsoft with no experience with Mac OS or Linux, and no idea about anything but the silo they are working in.

I was one of those kids who had to program games at 7 on a Sol20 in 1977 and than de-bug since every basic was different. When I found out if I could learn Assembly I could play more game I learned that. The day I got the 300 baud modem was life changing and I had to pay for a second line due to everyone else in the house being mad they couldn't use the phone.

Re: Computing is too easy

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post #12

I agree with the article. The differences between 10 year old me on my Commodore 64 and my currently 10 year old son on his Windows 7 computer are astronomical. When I turned my 64 on it was "READY" for me to make it do something. I spent days typing in BASIC and 6502 Assembly source code into it just to play a game. My son has a seemingly infinite supply of videos on YouTube to entertain him. Near infinite supply of…

There are many more distractions these days, but I'm not sure that it's as clear cut as you suggest.

It's really not that hard to get kids into some form of coding today. I've run a Scratch[1] club for 8-10 year olds at my daughter's school and every single one of the kids there loved it. By the end of the first hour, they were all producing some form of animation that they could control and all were desperate to come back for the following week.

Compare that with the steep learning curve of BASIC on an 80s 8-bit machine. It would take days to get anything more exciting than "Hello World!" out of it. Most of the people I know who had Spectrums (I'm British) as kids never went near programming. Their entire use of the command line was LOAD "".

[1] https://scratch.mit.edu/ - just in case anyone's never seen it.

Re: Computing is too easy

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post #2

> Our laptops are sleek and polished. Our operating systems are fluid and intuitive. This is clearly a joke. And a cruel one. Laptops are just two steps away from overheating and falling apart no matter how much glue they put in these days. And operating systems are laggy and messy. They have still 50% of laggines and 90% of messiness of what was the standard two decades ago.

"fluid and intuitive" I must laugh at this too. I need a search tool to find my installed programs and settings. Most of the time i need google to find out, if a changeable setting exists ;) Operating systems are stupid since many years, on every new Version i think "god, please change not too much", cause on every new Version things not getting better and not easier and not smoother. Yes, they look nicer, they have…

>I need a search tool to find my installed programs and settings.

as if simply typing the name of or keywords for what you want to find into a search bar isn't fluid and inuitive?

Re: Computing is too easy

#20
Yes.

And so is buying cheap unhealthy food. Talking long distance. Hooking up. Being entertained (or at least, finding entertainment). etc etc...

My point being, humanities entire push to modernity is nothing but step after step of making things "too easy."

We are supposed to stop now?

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