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Baseball’s Fight with Fatigue

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Re: Baseball’s Fight with Fatigue

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Interesting ideas by the Marlins, but I'd like to see the MLB take this further by cutting down the number of games from 162 to 100, and trimming the inning count from 9 to 7. Sure, the historical data won't match up, but it would be better for the players and more entertaining for the fans to watch shorter, less frequent games. On an unrelated note, it would be nice if they expanded the playoffs to include 16 teams…

Personally, I've always thought they should put a speed limit on pitching. These days watching baseball feels like watching two guys play catch.

if you mean that you want them to nerf pitching, I think that the appropriate way to do that is to lower the mound

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Personally, I've always thought they should put a speed limit on pitching. These days watching baseball feels like watching two guys play catch.

if you mean that you want them to nerf pitching, I think that the appropriate way to do that is to lower the mound

I think he wants MLB to implement a timer between pitches, which already exists (it's 12 seconds), but is rarely enforced.

Source: http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/official_rules/pitcher_... (Rule 8.04)

Re: Baseball’s Fight with Fatigue

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Interesting ideas by the Marlins, but I'd like to see the MLB take this further by cutting down the number of games from 162 to 100, and trimming the inning count from 9 to 7. Sure, the historical data won't match up, but it would be better for the players and more entertaining for the fans to watch shorter, less frequent games. On an unrelated note, it would be nice if they expanded the playoffs to include 16 teams…

> by cutting down the number of games from 162 to 100

Since coming to North America I've always felt one of the problems with Baseball and Hockey is they just play too many games, so no game is significant enough. When your team loses to a certain team, you don't care enough because you know they'll play them multiple times more.

Baseball is 162, Hockey is 82 games in "regular season"

NFL is only 16 games, which to me, makes it much more exciting because each win or loss really matters, and as a spectator I actually care.

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Interesting ideas by the Marlins, but I'd like to see the MLB take this further by cutting down the number of games from 162 to 100, and trimming the inning count from 9 to 7. Sure, the historical data won't match up, but it would be better for the players and more entertaining for the fans to watch shorter, less frequent games. On an unrelated note, it would be nice if they expanded the playoffs to include 16 teams…

The problem as with reducing the number of games for any sport always comes down to money. Reducing a season by 62 games for each team is a huge loss in revenues which owners will never go along with, especially owners of the highest grossing teams like the Yankees, Red Sox and Giants.

I like the idea of off-setting that with more teams in the playoffs, but that would be the biggest hurdle to climb in terms of reducing the number of games in a season. You could argue that maybe the players union could strike, citing to grueling of a season, but their compensation is directly tied to revenues, so they'd be opposed to a reduction in games as well.

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Interesting ideas by the Marlins, but I'd like to see the MLB take this further by cutting down the number of games from 162 to 100, and trimming the inning count from 9 to 7. Sure, the historical data won't match up, but it would be better for the players and more entertaining for the fans to watch shorter, less frequent games. On an unrelated note, it would be nice if they expanded the playoffs to include 16 teams…

The new MLB commissioner has responded to questions spurred by the WSJ report [0].

[0] http://deadspin.com/rob-manfred-wont-rule-out-a-shorter-base...

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Interesting ideas by the Marlins, but I'd like to see the MLB take this further by cutting down the number of games from 162 to 100, and trimming the inning count from 9 to 7. Sure, the historical data won't match up, but it would be better for the players and more entertaining for the fans to watch shorter, less frequent games. On an unrelated note, it would be nice if they expanded the playoffs to include 16 teams…

Personally, I've always thought they should put a speed limit on pitching. These days watching baseball feels like watching two guys play catch.

There actually already is a rule on this, the pitcher has to release the ball within 12 seconds of receiving the ball, as long as the batter is ready to receive the pitch. It's just never enforced. But there has been a lot of talk about possibly starting to enforce this rule, primarily using a visible clock/timer in games - though I think MLB were talking about changing from 12 to 20 seconds if they do start enforcing it.

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No one wants to comment on the blindingly obvious startup aspects? When dealing with millions of dollars, experienced professionals don't get shoved like sardines into the smallest possible space, don't even try to produce at world class level for 16 hours a day 7 days a week for years, don't turn to energy drinks and potato chips as a primary source of nutrition... Apparently pro-ball is the "anti-startup" despite the similar focus on individual rock stars and teamwork and millions of dollars on the line. Perhaps they're just dumb jocks, or maybe, just maybe, startup culture is wrong? Obviously its one or the other.

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Here is what I'd recommend: for four hours, alternate sitting and standing every ten minutes in a sunny park. When standing, once every thirty seconds or so tense into a squat position and concentrate as hard as you can on something about 100 feet away. Every 10th time, sprint all out in a random direction. Every 20th time, throw a rock as hard as you can as far as you can. What you will find is that you, a normal hu…

No, if you're a professional athlete this should not be all that difficult. Boring but not difficult. Look at the average baseball player. So many of them are plump or overweight. I'd argue that soccer players running 10-15 miles every game have a bit more to deal with. baseball needs some yoga and proper nutrition.

In general, the public has a poor understanding of being a professional athlete. Typically, when I try to explain it to others, I usually just say "it's a job like any other" - the same as staying on top of your game in the music industry, running a startup, etc.

It's easy for us to dismiss the effort professional athletes put out when you only see them on TV a few times. However, it's somehow different when we see Steve Jobs or Tim Cook on stage a couple times each year. We recognize all of the hard work Steve/Tim likely put in behind the scenes.

For some reason, a lot of people don't recognize that same level of effort for professional athletes. They just assume they show up for the game and perform at a high level.

For every hour on the field, there's probably two hours of study (mental preparation) and two hours of treatment and/or rehab (physical maintenance). Pair that with a rigid schedule every day, fatigue is a real concern.

We all know the overnight success myth. The myth exists for professional athletes as well. Athletes that make it to the highest level didn't simply wake up one morning and have all the tools to succeed. Hours and hours and hours of training, both mental and physical, had to occur. It's like anything else - you don't simply get good. It takes practice.

It also takes commitment, dedication, and perseverance to succeed at a professional level - just like everything else in this world.

Re: Baseball’s Fight with Fatigue

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post #9

Interesting ideas by the Marlins, but I'd like to see the MLB take this further by cutting down the number of games from 162 to 100, and trimming the inning count from 9 to 7. Sure, the historical data won't match up, but it would be better for the players and more entertaining for the fans to watch shorter, less frequent games. On an unrelated note, it would be nice if they expanded the playoffs to include 16 teams…

> by cutting down the number of games from 162 to 100 Since coming to North America I've always felt one of the problems with Baseball and Hockey is they just play too many games, so no game is significant enough. When your team loses to a certain team, you don't care enough because you know they'll play them multiple times more. Baseball is 162, Hockey is 82 games in "regular season" NFL is only 16 games, which to m…

You just haven't followed baseball closely enough. When it's September and you're in a close divisional or wildcard race, there is nothing more exciting in sports: every pitch counts and every at-bat counts -- and there are ~5-6 games per week. (And that only counts your team! Part of the terror of a close race is that you're also watching every pitch and every at-bat of your rivals.) If anything, it's almost exciting to a fault...

Re: Baseball’s Fight with Fatigue

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I am surprised they focus on the hitters. I thought that the pitchers were the only ones that were a big concern. It sounds like the league needs a rule that each player can only play 5 days with out a mandatory day off.
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