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The Mexican immigrant who set up a global drone firm

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Re: The Mexican immigrant who set up a global drone firm

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Post by jtreminio »

wahsd wrote: post #4

All feel good fuzzies about American dream this and that aside.... let me get this straight, he's an illegal alien creating an illegal business with illegal documents in order to break laws by flying drones for commercial purposes?

I know this is a touchy subject for many people, so I'll pardon your lack of reading and understanding TFA, but I'll paste the important parts here for you to re-read several times until it clicks:

> Mexican immigrant Jordi Munoz says that waiting for his green card after he first moved to the United States made him feel as if he was living "in a big jail".

He may or may not have been an "illegal alien". He was waiting for his green card which would have given him authorization to work legally within the USA.

This is reiterated here:

> Yet he could not legally work, or even enrol at a college, until he got the identity card that proved his right to live and seek employment in the country.

This in the following paragraph it says:

> But instead of just sitting around during his frustrating seven-month wait back in 2007, Mr Munoz, a keen model plane enthusiast and computer programmer, started to build his own drone in his garage.

Nowhere does it say he was an "illegal alien" while he built a company. Nowhere does it mention he used "illegal documents", or built an "illegal business". Irregardless, he seems to now be a fully-authorized resident building a fully legal business.

Take your xenophobia and lack of reading comprehension somewhere else.

Re: The Mexican immigrant who set up a global drone firm

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Post by pacofvf »

raverbashing wrote: post #10
pacofvf wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

he was an illegal resident for 8 months in 2007 and not a single part of his business is illegal. I would like to see some proofs of your ridiculous claims.

I'm pretty sure no one stays illegally for only 8 months than gets a Greencard after that time.

you are probably right therefore he probably wasn't even "illegal", the article only says that he was just waiting to get his green card, he maybe held a visa.

Re: The Mexican immigrant who set up a global drone firm

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Post by anigbrowl »

wahsd wrote: post #4

All feel good fuzzies about American dream this and that aside.... let me get this straight, he's an illegal alien creating an illegal business with illegal documents in order to break laws by flying drones for commercial purposes?

'Illegal aliens' don't have permission to accept employment, but in most cases it's perfectly legitimate to carry on business as long as you pay your taxes. I don't think legal residency in the US is a prerequisite to obtaining a business license in most states, not least because many US companies are owned by people who live elsewhere.

Re: The Mexican immigrant who set up a global drone firm

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Post by wahsd »

kefka wrote: post #8
wahsd wrote: post #4

All feel good fuzzies about American dream this and that aside.... let me get this straight, he's an illegal alien creating an illegal business with illegal documents in order to break laws by flying drones for commercial purposes?

You do know that there's no logical reason why there are countries to begin with? All countries are, are "people" with fences and guns, willing to slaughter people they don't like.

That's just plain stupid. Of course there are reasons for countries. Look at the subject countries, the USA vs. Mexico.

Re: The Mexican immigrant who set up a global drone firm

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Post by kefka »

wahsd wrote: post #14
kefka wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You do know that there's no logical reason why there are countries to begin with? All countries are, are "people" with fences and guns, willing to slaughter people they don't like.

That's just plain stupid. Of course there are reasons for countries. Look at the subject countries, the USA vs. Mexico.

And those "stupid" boundaries are just lines in the sand. Yes, 2 disparate groups claim ownership over which side of the line someone/something falls on.

But the underlying point is the same: the reason for the "country" is because people with guns and a fence said it is.

And it would be ideal if we all worked together to do something constructive.

Re: The Mexican immigrant who set up a global drone firm

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Post by Red_Tarsius »

wahsd wrote: post #4

All feel good fuzzies about American dream this and that aside.... let me get this straight, he's an illegal alien creating an illegal business with illegal documents in order to break laws by flying drones for commercial purposes?

What the hell is wrong with you? He's the founder of a very successful company and the article describes his humble beginning and struggles. How is that different from the bazillion of other links on HN?

Re: The Mexican immigrant who set up a global drone firm

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Post by G650 »

nakedrobot2 wrote: post #2

A couple thoughts here: 1) Great to see Mr. Munoz getting some press for himself since it's been Chris Anderson getting all the attention until now with his involvement in 3d Robotics. A bit sad that it's in the context of Munoz being "a mexican immigrant" rather that merely being "an awesome human" but I guess that's the angle here 2) There is a big rift between the UAV community and the general public regarding ter…

Really good points.

1) I am a Mexican American so seeing a successful Mexican in tech is really uplifting because there are very few that I can relate with. Definitely an angle that the journalist used so I agree with you. The headline unfortunately caught my attention but hey that's life.

2)Fantastic point on the terminology. This is now filed in my brain for later use. Thanks!

Re: The Mexican immigrant who set up a global drone firm

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Post by zghst »

kefka wrote: post #8
wahsd wrote: post #4

All feel good fuzzies about American dream this and that aside.... let me get this straight, he's an illegal alien creating an illegal business with illegal documents in order to break laws by flying drones for commercial purposes?

You do know that there's no logical reason why there are countries to begin with? All countries are, are "people" with fences and guns, willing to slaughter people they don't like.

Each people has a different identity, heritage, customs, etc; and it's the right of those people to protect their identity, enforce a code that they see fit, etc.

This kind of thinking is what has Africa and Eastern Europe all fucked up, forcing different indigenous groups together, carelessly increasing tensions so bad that wars break out. Go tell Bosnians, Israelites, Japanese, etc., that they shouldn't have their own country, see what happens.

Re: The Mexican immigrant who set up a global drone firm

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Post by zghst »

wahsd wrote: post #4

All feel good fuzzies about American dream this and that aside.... let me get this straight, he's an illegal alien creating an illegal business with illegal documents in order to break laws by flying drones for commercial purposes?

The politics on this site are hilarious.

Re: The Mexican immigrant who set up a global drone firm

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Post by rayiner »

kefka wrote: post #15
wahsd wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's just plain stupid. Of course there are reasons for countries. Look at the subject countries, the USA vs. Mexico.

And those "stupid" boundaries are just lines in the sand. Yes, 2 disparate groups claim ownership over which side of the line someone/something falls on. But the underlying point is the same: the reason for the "country" is because people with guns and a fence said it is. And it would be ideal if we all worked together to do something constructive.

You've got it backwards: As long as we live in a world of finite resources, it's utterly rational to capture the best ones then draw lines to defend them. It's irrational idealism that leads to the opposite conclusion.
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