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Re: Female Founders Conference – Live Stream [video]

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Jessica Livingston is giving a killer talk. I love her point of view as a non-technical partner at YC and her huge role as a judge of character

Exactly. I think a lot of us nerds underestimate how vital of a skill that is, to be able to evaluate personal skills of a person. Someone could be a great programmer, but if he can't work well with others he'll be more of a detriment to the team rather than being helpful.

They have written books on the subject:

http://guykawasaki.com/you_have_to_lov/

Re: Female Founders Conference – Live Stream [video]

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This is probably an unpopular opinion but I think having separate gender events like these are a terrible idea. How much uproar would there be if there was an event called Male Founders Conference? Now, I believe there is gender discrimination in the tech industry but I don't think segregated events like these are the answer, but a part of the problem. We should be working towards making all events and conferences, w…

I'm with you.

We have separate events for women in sports because they wouldn't be able to compete with men for obvious biological reasons. Holding separate events for entrepreneurship or engineering in the same way we do for sports sends the message that women can't compete with men in these fields either, which isn't true.

Re: Female Founders Conference – Live Stream [video]

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This is probably an unpopular opinion but I think having separate gender events like these are a terrible idea. How much uproar would there be if there was an event called Male Founders Conference? Now, I believe there is gender discrimination in the tech industry but I don't think segregated events like these are the answer, but a part of the problem. We should be working towards making all events and conferences, w…

Careful, logic in general and criticizing reparatory discrimination in particular will get you downvoted.

Passive aggression will do so as well.

Re: Female Founders Conference – Live Stream [video]

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"Please avoid introducing classic flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say about them." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Carefull critisism of the basic idea of an event like this without trying to start a flame war is somthing that should be allowed though. We all know that things like these are issues that are part of a bigger issue (the lack of women in tech). But all issues surounding something like this should be addressed. Even if the critisism is pointed at attempts at solving/adressing these issues. Like the trowaway account sa…

That was my initial reaction as well when I first heard about such an event. What's the point in segregating when there is already a segregation? But then I thought why even bother in which context an event with good intentions is held and as someone who favors utilitarianism I felt a little stupid that this wasn't my initial thought. From what I've heard these kind of events do have success, and the main motivation is, I guess, to create opportunities where women don't feel like a minority and where they can be role models for each other and people outside of tech. It's basically an attempt to break through the conjectured circular problem that women in tech are a minority because they are a minority.

Re: Female Founders Conference – Live Stream [video]

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Jessica Livingston is giving a killer talk. I love her point of view as a non-technical partner at YC and her huge role as a judge of character

Exactly. I think a lot of us nerds underestimate how vital of a skill that is, to be able to evaluate personal skills of a person. Someone could be a great programmer, but if he can't work well with others he'll be more of a detriment to the team rather than being helpful.

There's a lot of interesting research on "judging character". I particularly recall reading in "Thinking, Fast and Slow" (Kahneman) that subjective judgement was consistently worse than even relatively arbitrary objective judgements. I believe this study was conducted in army recruitment and so obviously may not be universal. Very thought-provoking notetheless.

EDIT: ... that's not to cast any aspersions on any particular people involved here, I'm just trying to make a general point that "intuition" or "judgment" may not actually be as good as we think they are.

Re: Female Founders Conference – Live Stream [video]

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Carefull critisism of the basic idea of an event like this without trying to start a flame war is somthing that should be allowed though. We all know that things like these are issues that are part of a bigger issue (the lack of women in tech). But all issues surounding something like this should be addressed. Even if the critisism is pointed at attempts at solving/adressing these issues. Like the trowaway account sa…

That was my initial reaction as well when I first heard about such an event. What's the point in segregating when there is already a segregation? But then I thought why even bother in which context an event with good intentions is held and as someone who favors utilitarianism I felt a little stupid that this wasn't my initial thought. From what I've heard these kind of events do have success, and the main motivation…

Sounds like a solid point.

>where they can be role models for each other and people outside of tech.

Wouldn't it be a good idea to put more women who reach accomplisments in tech in the spotlight? Because I rarely hear about the results etc of conferences like these.

Re: Female Founders Conference – Live Stream [video]

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This is probably an unpopular opinion but I think having separate gender events like these are a terrible idea. How much uproar would there be if there was an event called Male Founders Conference? Now, I believe there is gender discrimination in the tech industry but I don't think segregated events like these are the answer, but a part of the problem. We should be working towards making all events and conferences, w…

I'm with you. We have separate events for women in sports because they wouldn't be able to compete with men for obvious biological reasons. Holding separate events for entrepreneurship or engineering in the same way we do for sports sends the message that women can't compete with men in these fields either, which isn't true.

You would think so but if investors discriminate against female founders, It doesn't really matter if women are capable.

Also even as investor perceptions change, Women are still under represented in the startup circle and as with any other under represented demographic I don't see any problem with holding events that inspire/educate them to start a company.

Re: Female Founders Conference – Live Stream [video]

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was my initial reaction as well when I first heard about such an event. What's the point in segregating when there is already a segregation? But then I thought why even bother in which context an event with good intentions is held and as someone who favors utilitarianism I felt a little stupid that this wasn't my initial thought. From what I've heard these kind of events do have success, and the main motivation…

Sounds like a solid point. >where they can be role models for each other and people outside of tech. Wouldn't it be a good idea to put more women who reach accomplisments in tech in the spotlight? Because I rarely hear about the results etc of conferences like these.

Putting more women in the spotlight might be a good idea, but these events don't prevent doing so as well. If anything, they might help by increasing their visibility.

Re: Female Founders Conference – Live Stream [video]

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This is probably an unpopular opinion but I think having separate gender events like these are a terrible idea. How much uproar would there be if there was an event called Male Founders Conference? Now, I believe there is gender discrimination in the tech industry but I don't think segregated events like these are the answer, but a part of the problem. We should be working towards making all events and conferences, w…

Considering you had to make a throw-away account to express your rather mild opinion, and then was immediately down-voted for it, yeah, I definitely agree you have an unpopular opinion. More than that, the whole issue of gender in tech has become toxic because of the two opposing sides polarizing the issue. In my place of work, most of the folks there identity themselves with things like "the front end js / photoshop…

Considering you had to make a throw-away account to express your rather mild opinion, and then was immediately down-voted for it, yeah, I definitely agree you have an unpopular opinion.

Or maybe people that are interested in the conference want to talk about it without having the conversation hijacked by a rehash of the tired argument around the question of gendered events, which never goes anywhere on HN.

A down vote does not necessarily imply disagreement of the opinion expressed - it might just express disagreement on the choice of thread on which it should be made.

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