“Discuss latest changes to master before releasing”

Post by jiaweihli » Fri, Feb 20, 2015, 3:15 AM UTC

maratd wrote: post #10

TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #7

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If you're using CommonJS you can do require('lodash/category/method'), and when it gets built on the frontend it'll only include the method and its dependencies. So if you're using only 5% of lodash, you'll only get that 5%.

Right. If on node, you can also use modules via NPM ( https://www.npmjs.com/browse/keyword/lodash-modularized ). But as I said, this is common in many frameworks. Hell, you can even do with JQuery ( http://projects.jga.me/jquery-builder/ ). So having this ability doesn't make Lodash special. This is not presented as the preferred method to use the framework on the project page either. You just get a link on the front…

Post by brandoncarl » Fri, Feb 20, 2015, 3:19 AM UTC

Post by maratd » Fri, Feb 20, 2015, 3:23 AM UTC

jiaweihli wrote: post #11

maratd wrote: post #10

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Right. If on node, you can also use modules via NPM ( https://www.npmjs.com/browse/keyword/lodash-modularized ). But as I said, this is common in many frameworks. Hell, you can even do with JQuery ( http://projects.jga.me/jquery-builder/ ). So having this ability doesn't make Lodash special. This is not presented as the preferred method to use the framework on the project page either. You just get a link on the front…

If you care about filesize, you'll probably optimize as much as possible. You can do this with Lodash using modular imports. There's little upside in hosting a light version, and fragmenting the docs. Min/max'ing on filesize lets you save 15 kB, or 0 kB. Creating a light build that saves 5 kB is a maintenance cost with a poor ratio relative to reward.

Post by TheHydroImpulse » Fri, Feb 20, 2015, 3:33 AM UTC

logicallee wrote: post #16

I don't follow Underscore but whoever wrote this title (currently "Underscore 1.8 makes last minute breaking changes to master without discussion") must really have an axe to grind, and it seems inappropriate for HN. Doesn't really set the tone for any constructive discussion.

Post by untog » Fri, Feb 20, 2015, 3:52 AM UTC

thejameskyle wrote: post #8

maratd wrote: post #5

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Lodash is also several times larger than Underscore. The point of Underscore is to keep it light. And yes, you can pick and choose what modules you want. But you could do that with Mootools and it was released a decade ago. If you want a heavy framework with lots of modules, there are plenty to choose from. Maybe if it offered a light version on the front page? The file linked from the front page is 372KB. By compari…

A couple things: - The actual difference (minified and gzipped) is 17.6 KB vs. 5.7KB. - Lodash is written modularly so you can import only the methods you actually need. - In order to "lose some weight" (as Jeremy Ashkenas called it), underscore dropped several methods that people really wanted (including other contributors). - Also to cut down the size, several major pieces of functionality is not broken in older ve…