No mention of one of the most unhealthy components of the meal, carbohydrates? I think the average burrito clocks in at around 120 carbs
Carbohydrates are most certainly not 'unhealthy'. Care to cite any sources?
At Chipotle, How Many Calories Do People Really Eat?
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Re: At Chipotle, How Many Calories Do People Really Eat?
#12Calories are a very broad way to measure what we need in terms of food. Eating 200-2500 at 50-60% carbs tends to make me fat-ter than eating 3000 at 20%. I cook most of the food I eat, but I take calories into account very broadly, more narrowly when I diet. Just to say, 1000 kcal might be half day worth of your energy needs on paper, in reality it's much more complex than that. In fact, if you are eating decent food…
Unless you have just successfully dismantled the second law of thermodynamics, this is impossible.
Re: At Chipotle, How Many Calories Do People Really Eat?
#13Click around with this nice tool: http://www.chipotlefan.com/index.php?id=nutrition_calculator Skip the tortilla, sour cream and chips and you've just saved 980 calories. Without those it's hard to create a meal that has a calorie issue. Aside from the sodium, Chipotle is darn healthy.
That's odd some of their values differ greatly from the ones provided by Chipotle themselves. This strikes me as a significant problem, nutritional values are provided and are totally inaccurate. Which one is accurate how can we judge?
http://www.chipotle.com/en-US/menu/nutrition_calculator/nutr...
Looks like the information provided by chipotlefan is from 2009.
Re: At Chipotle, How Many Calories Do People Really Eat?
#14Calories are a very broad way to measure what we need in terms of food. Eating 200-2500 at 50-60% carbs tends to make me fat-ter than eating 3000 at 20%. I cook most of the food I eat, but I take calories into account very broadly, more narrowly when I diet. Just to say, 1000 kcal might be half day worth of your energy needs on paper, in reality it's much more complex than that. In fact, if you are eating decent food…
Unless you have just successfully dismantled the second law of thermodynamics, this is impossible.
You body is not a 100% efficient machine and it does not take into account calories to the decimal point.
Re: At Chipotle, How Many Calories Do People Really Eat?
#15Calories are a very broad way to measure what we need in terms of food. Eating 200-2500 at 50-60% carbs tends to make me fat-ter than eating 3000 at 20%. I cook most of the food I eat, but I take calories into account very broadly, more narrowly when I diet. Just to say, 1000 kcal might be half day worth of your energy needs on paper, in reality it's much more complex than that. In fact, if you are eating decent food…
> Eating 200-2500 at 50-60% carbs tends to make me fat-ter than eating 3000 at 20%. This is horse shit. It does not matter what form the calories are in, if you are eating too many you will gain weight. If you eat less than you need you will lose weight. Source: I lost over 100 lbs in 2010-2011.
The two sides of this argument always talk past each other. As someone who lost 100lbs I'm sure you know this but lots of people don't.
* Calories in vs. calories out is 100% what determines how much weight you gain or lose.
* Your macronutrient ratios determine how that weight is partitioned (muscle vs fat) and have some control over hormones that contribute to hunger, like leptin.
The end result is that cutting out carbs can help people get to a calorie deficit without feeling hungry like they would on a "standard" low fat diet.
Re: At Chipotle, How Many Calories Do People Really Eat?
#16Click around with this nice tool: http://www.chipotlefan.com/index.php?id=nutrition_calculator Skip the tortilla, sour cream and chips and you've just saved 980 calories. Without those it's hard to create a meal that has a calorie issue. Aside from the sodium, Chipotle is darn healthy.
That's odd some of their values differ greatly from the ones provided by Chipotle themselves. This strikes me as a significant problem, nutritional values are provided and are totally inaccurate. Which one is accurate how can we judge? http://www.chipotle.com/en-US/menu/nutrition_calculator/nutr... Looks like the information provided by chipotlefan is from 2009.
Most that I've looked at seem to be within 5-10% which is surely within the variance for food being doled out by scoop. I just preferred the UI of the first one. Which items are way off so I know what to look out for?
Re: At Chipotle, How Many Calories Do People Really Eat?
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Eating 200-2500 at 50-60% carbs tends to make me fat-ter than eating 3000 at 20%. This is horse shit. It does not matter what form the calories are in, if you are eating too many you will gain weight. If you eat less than you need you will lose weight. Source: I lost over 100 lbs in 2010-2011.
The two sides of this argument always talk past each other. As someone who lost 100lbs I'm sure you know this but lots of people don't. * Calories in vs. calories out is 100% what determines how much weight you gain or lose. * Your macronutrient ratios determine how that weight is partitioned (muscle vs fat) and have some control over hormones that contribute to hunger, like leptin. The end result is that cutting out…
Cutting carbs helps because carbs aren't filling/satisfying. That's true. But he wasn't making that claim. He was making the old woo-woo claim that you can eat way too many calories in fat and still lose weight.
The only way to lose weight is to have a calorie deficit.
Re: At Chipotle, How Many Calories Do People Really Eat?
#18Calories are a very broad way to measure what we need in terms of food. Eating 200-2500 at 50-60% carbs tends to make me fat-ter than eating 3000 at 20%. I cook most of the food I eat, but I take calories into account very broadly, more narrowly when I diet. Just to say, 1000 kcal might be half day worth of your energy needs on paper, in reality it's much more complex than that. In fact, if you are eating decent food…
Unless you have just successfully dismantled the second law of thermodynamics, this is impossible.
The comment you replied to only mentions calories input. kfk didn't say that they were burning the same amount of calories in each scenario.
Re: At Chipotle, How Many Calories Do People Really Eat?
#19A few points to balance this out: 1. Many people don't finish what they order in one meal. I can generally get two meals out of a Chipotle burrito. Many do, of course, but that can't be sussed out of the data they used. In addition, the chips sides are sized to share, and I'd wager that most people who order those do share with someone else. 2. It's a mistaken assumption that one meal ought to be only 1/3 of your dai…
> I'd wager that most people who order those do share with someone else.
I live in a college town and this is definitely not the case here. Most people buy them for themselves. Items are also typically eaten for one meal, but it's college students so that's to be expected.
> It's a mistaken assumption that one meal ought to be only 1/3 of your daily calorie intake
I think what they're getting at is what you're also making a point about; that it doesn't necessarily have to be eaten in one setting. The point of lower calories is is gives you more options with what you can eat without gaining weight (assuming you're not on a weight-gain program for power lifting). What's deceiving is that, while Chipotle offers the full ranges of calories for their food, they don't mention that if you go through with all the things they offer then you usually end up in the 1000+ range. I wouldn't doubt if there are many people downing 1000+ calories thinking that they're closer to 600.
> focusing on calorie and sodium counts is an incomplete way to assess the healthiness of the food
This is correct, but to a point. An excess of calories, unless offset by regular exercise, leads to weight gain, which is collectively unhealthy for our society. There's obviously much more to it (an obese person who can run a mile is considered healthier than a skinny person who can't for example), but that's failing to see the bigger picture. The point is, people in developed countries are shoving more calories into themselves than they need, and places like Chipotle aren't a haven of good health - they're also part of the problem.
Re: At Chipotle, How Many Calories Do People Really Eat?
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's odd some of their values differ greatly from the ones provided by Chipotle themselves. This strikes me as a significant problem, nutritional values are provided and are totally inaccurate. Which one is accurate how can we judge? http://www.chipotle.com/en-US/menu/nutrition_calculator/nutr... Looks like the information provided by chipotlefan is from 2009.
Most that I've looked at seem to be within 5-10% which is surely within the variance for food being doled out by scoop. I just preferred the UI of the first one. Which items are way off so I know what to look out for?
White rice is off by 50 calories for example (135 on chipotlefan and 185 on chipotle).