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Re: The Original Macintosh: Calculator Construction Set

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Post by agumonkey » Tue, Feb 10, 2015, 5:32 PM UTC

normloman wrote: post #10

agumonkey wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Love it or not, but this masochistic attention to details is what sets up Apple from the rest in the public eye.

Attention to details and micromanagement are not the same thing. You can have one without the other (Just hire devoted UI designers and hold them to a high standard). And before we forget, the first macs failed to take the tech world by storm, and it wasn't until the iPod that Apple became silicon valley's golden boy.

Are you sure about your last point ? I was a kid so I can't be too certain, but the graphical (photo, movies, a bit of architecture, not 3d though) industry was heavy on Macs quite early on. Even music studio used Mac workstations (with additional audio hardware).

Re: The Original Macintosh: Calculator Construction Set

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Post by Zelphyr » Tue, Feb 10, 2015, 7:06 PM UTC

agumonkey wrote: post #11

normloman wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Attention to details and micromanagement are not the same thing. You can have one without the other (Just hire devoted UI designers and hold them to a high standard). And before we forget, the first macs failed to take the tech world by storm, and it wasn't until the iPod that Apple became silicon valley's golden boy.

Are you sure about your last point ? I was a kid so I can't be too certain, but the graphical (photo, movies, a bit of architecture, not 3d though) industry was heavy on Macs quite early on. Even music studio used Mac workstations (with additional audio hardware).

Apple was big in the 80's, no doubt about it, but they were small potatoes compared to the behemoth they are now.

Re: The Original Macintosh: Calculator Construction Set

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Post by agumonkey » Tue, Feb 10, 2015, 7:07 PM UTC

Zelphyr wrote: post #12

agumonkey wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you sure about your last point ? I was a kid so I can't be too certain, but the graphical (photo, movies, a bit of architecture, not 3d though) industry was heavy on Macs quite early on. Even music studio used Mac workstations (with additional audio hardware).

Apple was big in the 80's, no doubt about it, but they were small potatoes compared to the behemoth they are now.

As their market.

Re: The Original Macintosh: Calculator Construction Set

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Post by Zelphyr » Tue, Feb 10, 2015, 7:08 PM UTC

coob wrote: post #2

Xcode 6's additions to Interface Builder allow for similar tools to be built now. Here's a great NSHipster article that details a modern take on the Calculator Construction Set: http://nshipster.com/ibinspectable-ibdesignable/

I'm surprised it has taken them this long to get something like that into Xcode.

Re: The Original Macintosh: Calculator Construction Set

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Post by normloman » Thu, Feb 12, 2015, 7:14 PM UTC

agumonkey wrote: post #11

normloman wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Attention to details and micromanagement are not the same thing. You can have one without the other (Just hire devoted UI designers and hold them to a high standard). And before we forget, the first macs failed to take the tech world by storm, and it wasn't until the iPod that Apple became silicon valley's golden boy.

Are you sure about your last point ? I was a kid so I can't be too certain, but the graphical (photo, movies, a bit of architecture, not 3d though) industry was heavy on Macs quite early on. Even music studio used Mac workstations (with additional audio hardware).

Macs had success in the education markets and among artists / filmmakers / musicians. That's a small market. Despite their advanced hardware and mature interface, early macs lost to PCs because PCs were cheaper and more open (software could run on any IBM compatible machine rather than just macs).