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Re: Explore the Swiss Leaks Data

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Most client & account data from 1988-2007; amounts from 2006-07. Seems like this is the same dataset which Falciani leaked to the french authorities 5 years ago: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herv%C3%A9_Falciani Edit: See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagarde_list - this list has already a quite interesting history.

It is the Hervé Falciani leak. See the Guardian coverage: http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/feb/08/hsbc-files-e... The origin of the leak The HSBC files were obtained through an international collaboration of news outlets, including the Guardian, Le Monde, BBC Panorama and the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists 1 In late 2007, Hervé Falciani, an IT expert at HSBC's Swiss bank, hacked into it…

Why so few prosecuted in Britain? Wouldn't this be a good opportunity to get some assholes who thought they could shift the tax burden to others? Six month prison sentences sounds reasonable. British prisons suck, but given that this is partly the dodgers fault that's just poetic.

Re: Explore the Swiss Leaks Data

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Most client & account data from 1988-2007; amounts from 2006-07. Seems like this is the same dataset which Falciani leaked to the french authorities 5 years ago: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herv%C3%A9_Falciani Edit: See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagarde_list - this list has already a quite interesting history.

So does any of this relate to current offences, or is it all historical?

Re: Explore the Swiss Leaks Data

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This doesn't appear to be the leaked data, but rather curated profiles of some of the people referenced in the supposedly leaked data. Am I missing something?

This seems to be biased journalists trying to push their agenda through exposure of private information of selected individuals.

journalism is too much flattery in this case

Re: Explore the Swiss Leaks Data

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is the Hervé Falciani leak. See the Guardian coverage: http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/feb/08/hsbc-files-e... The origin of the leak The HSBC files were obtained through an international collaboration of news outlets, including the Guardian, Le Monde, BBC Panorama and the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists 1 In late 2007, Hervé Falciani, an IT expert at HSBC's Swiss bank, hacked into it…

Why so few prosecuted in Britain? Wouldn't this be a good opportunity to get some assholes who thought they could shift the tax burden to others? Six month prison sentences sounds reasonable. British prisons suck, but given that this is partly the dodgers fault that's just poetic.

As I recall, to get prosecuted for tax evasion in the UK, you need to not only commit the tax evasion, but also to lie to the HMRC investigation of the tax evasion, at the point where they ask you to sign a form that explicitly says that if you lie now and they find out, they will put you in jail.

So unless you lie at that point, you will not be prosecuted, only investigated.

This may let some tax dodgers off the hook, but it also ensures that genuine mistakes are not punished by jail time.

Re: Explore the Swiss Leaks Data

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is the Hervé Falciani leak. See the Guardian coverage: http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/feb/08/hsbc-files-e... The origin of the leak The HSBC files were obtained through an international collaboration of news outlets, including the Guardian, Le Monde, BBC Panorama and the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists 1 In late 2007, Hervé Falciani, an IT expert at HSBC's Swiss bank, hacked into it…

Why so few prosecuted in Britain? Wouldn't this be a good opportunity to get some assholes who thought they could shift the tax burden to others? Six month prison sentences sounds reasonable. British prisons suck, but given that this is partly the dodgers fault that's just poetic.

Or how about you let the authorities deal with it in a reasonable, case by case basis and get off your polemic high horse

Re: Explore the Swiss Leaks Data

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is the Hervé Falciani leak. See the Guardian coverage: http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/feb/08/hsbc-files-e... The origin of the leak The HSBC files were obtained through an international collaboration of news outlets, including the Guardian, Le Monde, BBC Panorama and the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists 1 In late 2007, Hervé Falciani, an IT expert at HSBC's Swiss bank, hacked into it…

Why so few prosecuted in Britain? Wouldn't this be a good opportunity to get some assholes who thought they could shift the tax burden to others? Six month prison sentences sounds reasonable. British prisons suck, but given that this is partly the dodgers fault that's just poetic.

What would be the value in it? Justice? What does that mean? Punishment?

Or to send a warning? Would that really be effective?

What would be the cost? Was there anybody in the pot that was expendable, economically?

Re: Explore the Swiss Leaks Data

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why so few prosecuted in Britain? Wouldn't this be a good opportunity to get some assholes who thought they could shift the tax burden to others? Six month prison sentences sounds reasonable. British prisons suck, but given that this is partly the dodgers fault that's just poetic.

As I recall, to get prosecuted for tax evasion in the UK, you need to not only commit the tax evasion, but also to lie to the HMRC investigation of the tax evasion, at the point where they ask you to sign a form that explicitly says that if you lie now and they find out, they will put you in jail. So unless you lie at that point, you will not be prosecuted, only investigated. This may let some tax dodgers off the hoo…

Protecting people from their own mistakes is fine, but they lost that defence once they put the money in secret swiss bank accounts. Secret. Swiss. Bank. Accounts. Might as well accidentally ask the local mafia to white wash some money while they twirl their mustaches.
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