So apparently Keiser was caught committing perjury and walked away scott free? Forget about keeping his job, how is he not going to prison?
> So apparently Keiser was caught committing perjury and walked away scott free?
TSA jails innocent traveler when he asks to file a complaint
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#12I accidentally left some throwing knives (I am a martial artist and have an interesting these types of things) in my backpack and ran into a similar situation. I was appalled when TSA found the knives, as this was just a few years after 9/11, and pretty earnest in my rapid apology. Well, unfortunately for me, not only was the TSA having a "bad day", but the police officer they called over was having a worse one.
I could waste a lot of space with details, ultimately he made threats my way and I responded poorly as I do not care much for authority of any kind. The end result was me spending thousands of dollars on a lawyer and travel fees only to have the judge immediately dismiss the case when it went to court, as the whole situation was ludicrous when looked at from the outside. It seriously hurt my finances to defend myself, I was no architect and I was pretty much outraged over the entire ordeal.
My point is these TSA / LE type positions know they can wreck your world with essentially the wave of a wand. Stories like this poor guy sicken me. I would personally like to see private agencies running the show again, the TSA has too much power and situations like mine and this poor guy are really just inexcusable.
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#13The perjury seems pretty clear cut. What's the process of reporting that crime in the US, and has anyone made those reports?
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#14So apparently Keiser was caught committing perjury and walked away scott free? Forget about keeping his job, how is he not going to prison?
> So apparently Keiser was caught committing perjury and walked away scott free? Also, http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/242
Rather.
As I've already argued, kidnapping applies here.
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#15This is exactly what Osama bin Laden wanted. The goal of terrorism is to push a country towards a police state. Subjected to increased police powers, people will blame the government, and will rise up against that government. So terrorism is an indirect attempt to destabilize a country. I think that was a big part of why the 9/11 attacks were carried out.
Of course, it didn't work. In the USA, George Bush got re-elected, and citizens aren't doing much more than grumbling about abuses of power by the police forces. Of the chain of causation that Qaeda was hoping to trigger, only the first one took place: enormously increased policing. No major government change has followed.
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#16Interesting that this is a Philadelphia story; the ACLU recently drove Philadelphia PD to admit wrongdoing over a similar wrongful arrest involving TSA.
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#17I accidentally left some throwing knives (I am a martial artist and have an interesting these types of things) in my backpack and ran into a similar situation. I was appalled when TSA found the knives, as this was just a few years after 9/11, and pretty earnest in my rapid apology. Well, unfortunately for me, not only was the TSA having a "bad day", but the police officer they called over was having a worse one. I co…
The difference is that guy did nothing while you ignored many different big warnings telling you not to take knives on a plane.
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#18So the police lied about his actions and what he said in order to fabricate a crime, but forgot there was a camera rolling. And of course after having their dishonesty proven in court they keep their jobs. Business as usual, really.
the police lied about his actions That Kieser guy is just a TSA employee, not a police officer.
I'm sorry, potato... errr ya potato. if a person can put you into prison with the authority of their word then they are an officer of the law. However cute way they want to cut that in the political realm is all fine and gravy, but lets not start defending such silliness in a public discussion.
EDIT: I'm aware that the TSA call the police and the police do the actual arresting... that is sort of walking around the point
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
the police lied about his actions That Kieser guy is just a TSA employee, not a police officer.
I'm sorry, potato... errr ya potato. if a person can put you into prison with the authority of their word then they are an officer of the law. However cute way they want to cut that in the political realm is all fine and gravy, but lets not start defending such silliness in a public discussion. EDIT: I'm aware that the TSA call the police and the police do the actual arresting... that is sort of walking around the po…
All the TSA can do is call the police. It's the police who put people in jail.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm sorry, potato... errr ya potato. if a person can put you into prison with the authority of their word then they are an officer of the law. However cute way they want to cut that in the political realm is all fine and gravy, but lets not start defending such silliness in a public discussion. EDIT: I'm aware that the TSA call the police and the police do the actual arresting... that is sort of walking around the po…
All the TSA can do is call the police. It's the police who put people in jail.
Yes, but if you called the police, had them showed up to a bag of cliff bars and fitbit, you think things would have proceeded the same way? There is a special legal status TSA officials hold be it expressed or not.