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Heart and sole: Detroiter walks 21 miles in work commute

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Re: Heart and sole: Detroiter walks 21 miles in work commute

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This seems like a good application for a bicycle.

Biking in the snow / slush (especially on public streets since Detroit doesn't have the money to clear sidewalks) is an extremely precarious proposition.

Suggested reading: How To Ride Your Bike All Winter – And Love it by Mr. Money Mustache

http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2011/11/03/how-to-ride-your-b...

Re: Heart and sole: Detroiter walks 21 miles in work commute

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post #10

I grew up in metro Detroit. I used to work summers as a programmer in one of the factories in the Rochester area near where he works. The lack of public transit is one of the reasons I left the state. As the article alludes to - the cause is intentional. By removing public transit, rich suburbs can keep out the people from the city. An ambituous plan to add light rail down the iconic stretch of Woodward Ave extending…

You mean the M-1 Rail Project? If yes, its still very much alive and is under construction now: http://m-1rail.com

One of the earlier plans for the project called for a light rail line all the way up to Pontiac, or at least out to 8 Mile.

The current plan calls for a 3 mile out-and-back that barely gets out past downtown and serves a tiny percentage of the population[1]

http://detroitography.com/2014/12/05/map-will-the-m1-rail-st...

Re: Heart and sole: Detroiter walks 21 miles in work commute

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I'd like to point out the infectious nature of determination. This gets back to motivation vs discipline discussion on HN lately.

It seems like human nature, when you see someone leaning in so vigorously, to either join their cause or do something to help them personally. The manager's wife cooked James meals, the banker was giving him rides, and now as nwilkens points out, someone's crowd funding a car for him. Think how the guys at that plant feel working alongside someone like that.

For those keeping score with discipline and motivation, here's another tool for that toolbox.

Re: Heart and sole: Detroiter walks 21 miles in work commute

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> "I say, if this man can get here, walking all those miles through snow and rain, well I'll tell you, I have people in Pontiac 10 minutes away and they say they can't get here — bull!"

I say someone with that attitude should help this guy get a car. Good grief.

Is this guy respectable and noble, or an excuse for demanding more from his fellow workers? As in "look how determined your coworker is, you should all be doing more".

Re: Heart and sole: Detroiter walks 21 miles in work commute

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Why is it that everyone's first response seems to be along the lines of patting this guy on the back for his dedication to getting to work (an applaudable work ethic, to be sure) but no one condemns his employer for his abysmal hourly wage, which is what forces this ridiculous commute? According to TFA, he's a favorite of the company owners—but apparently not such a favorite that they can bump the wages of a worker who's been there for at least ten years into something approaching a living wage. They don't seem to have a problem with the healthcare problems this man is almost certainly creating for himself from the numerous ill effects of sleep deprivation.

We should all be disgusted by this.

Re: Heart and sole: Detroiter walks 21 miles in work commute

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Biking in the snow / slush (especially on public streets since Detroit doesn't have the money to clear sidewalks) is an extremely precarious proposition.

The 7 mile leg close to the job is in Rochester Hills. Who knows what the road conditions are there, but Detroit's budget woes aren't a factor (It's even a different county). So apparently half of the problem is that Oakland county doesn't have as much public transit as Wayne county.

Good point, I was mostly assuming the 'Detroiter' in the headline was accurate. Rochester Hills (and Oakland County) is a much more affluent area than Detroit -- Plows shouldn't be in short supply.

For the unaware, the 'Somerset Collection' they mention in the article is a mall with Cartier / Burberry / Salvatore Ferragamo stores inside. There's a certain amount of symbolism that the Detroiter has to commute past vast affluence that was once local to Detroit to chase a factory job.

Re: Heart and sole: Detroiter walks 21 miles in work commute

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Why is it that everyone's first response seems to be along the lines of patting this guy on the back for his dedication to getting to work (an applaudable work ethic, to be sure) but no one condemns his employer for his abysmal hourly wage, which is what forces this ridiculous commute? According to TFA, he's a favorite of the company owners—but apparently not such a favorite that they can bump the wages of a worker w…

Just because you like somebody who works for you doesn't mean it makes financial sense for the company to pay them more.
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