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Malaysia Airlines Defaced - 404 Plane Not Found

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Re: Malaysia Airlines Defaced - 404 Plane Not Found

#13

> hacked by a group claiming be aligned with the Islamic State extremist group > hackers claiming to be similarly aligned with the Islamic State extremist group This is either really dishonest or really stupid reporting. They're not actually aligning themselves with ISIS. They're just trolls trying to be edgy.

I don't see how it's dishonest. Whatever their actual alignment and/or edgy-troll status, they still claimed to be aligned with ISIS, just as the article says.

The job of a journalist is to fact-check and separate fact from fiction.

Which is to say, when the subject of an article claims something, you should probably not print it verbatim without thinking it through at least a little bit, and maybe determine the credibility of what's being said.

It is not the job of a journalist to regurgitate sources blindly.

Otherwise... hey journalists, I am literally the second coming of Jesus, you guys should interview me and tell people I'm the Son of God.

Re: Malaysia Airlines Defaced - 404 Plane Not Found

#14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see how it's dishonest. Whatever their actual alignment and/or edgy-troll status, they still claimed to be aligned with ISIS, just as the article says.

The job of a journalist is to fact-check and separate fact from fiction. Which is to say, when the subject of an article claims something, you should probably not print it verbatim without thinking it through at least a little bit, and maybe determine the credibility of what's being said. It is not the job of a journalist to regurgitate sources blindly. Otherwise... hey journalists, I am literally the second coming o…

How can the journalist reliably evaluate who "Lizard Squad" is aligned with, especially with them repeatedly claiming to support ISIS?

Re: Malaysia Airlines Defaced - 404 Plane Not Found

#15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see how it's dishonest. Whatever their actual alignment and/or edgy-troll status, they still claimed to be aligned with ISIS, just as the article says.

The job of a journalist is to fact-check and separate fact from fiction. Which is to say, when the subject of an article claims something, you should probably not print it verbatim without thinking it through at least a little bit, and maybe determine the credibility of what's being said. It is not the job of a journalist to regurgitate sources blindly. Otherwise... hey journalists, I am literally the second coming o…

> Otherwise... hey journalists, I am literally the second coming of Jesus, you guys should interview me and tell people I'm the Son of God.

Right, and in that case the article would probably read "potatolicious, who claims to be the second coming of Jesus..." *

Their claim of alignment with ISIS is, in itself, a part of the story. They are reporting that the claims have been made, not that the claims are factually correct.

* This actually happened on British TV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlSj_imnv7o

Re: Malaysia Airlines Defaced - 404 Plane Not Found

#16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see how it's dishonest. Whatever their actual alignment and/or edgy-troll status, they still claimed to be aligned with ISIS, just as the article says.

The job of a journalist is to fact-check and separate fact from fiction. Which is to say, when the subject of an article claims something, you should probably not print it verbatim without thinking it through at least a little bit, and maybe determine the credibility of what's being said. It is not the job of a journalist to regurgitate sources blindly. Otherwise... hey journalists, I am literally the second coming o…

In your example journalists would say that you claim to be the son of god. They wouldn't say that you are the son of god.

You seem to be asking journalists to say "he claims to be the son of god (but he isn't, obvs)" which is asking th journalists to provide information they don't have.

Re: Malaysia Airlines Defaced - 404 Plane Not Found

#17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see how it's dishonest. Whatever their actual alignment and/or edgy-troll status, they still claimed to be aligned with ISIS, just as the article says.

The job of a journalist is to fact-check and separate fact from fiction. Which is to say, when the subject of an article claims something, you should probably not print it verbatim without thinking it through at least a little bit, and maybe determine the credibility of what's being said. It is not the job of a journalist to regurgitate sources blindly. Otherwise... hey journalists, I am literally the second coming o…

> hacked by a group claiming be aligned with the Islamic State extremist group

The article claims that the website was hacked by a group claiming to be aligned with the Islamic State.

> hey journalists, I am literally the second coming of Jesus, you guys should interview me and tell people I'm the Son of God.

Good journalism would be to report that you are claiming to be Jesus. Which is what happened here; they reported a claim of affiliation, not the affiliation as a fact. It would actually be bad journalism for the reporter to take a position on your divinity (or an unknown groups actual affiliation with IS).

Re: Malaysia Airlines Defaced - 404 Plane Not Found

#18
post #7

Interestingly enough, despite malaysia airlines claiming that this is just a DNS hijack. It appears that their own CDN (Akamai) is now serving the deface page. (The page was being served by cloudflare before)

Many CDNs work by retrieving the page themselves, caching it, and re-delivering on request. In that case, if the original page changes, the CDN would automatically change too.

Re: Malaysia Airlines Defaced - 404 Plane Not Found

#19
post #7

Interestingly enough, despite malaysia airlines claiming that this is just a DNS hijack. It appears that their own CDN (Akamai) is now serving the deface page. (The page was being served by cloudflare before)

Many CDNs work by retrieving the page themselves, caching it, and re-delivering on request. In that case, if the original page changes, the CDN would automatically change too.

Which would imply that their backend was compromised, not just DNS.

Re: Malaysia Airlines Defaced - 404 Plane Not Found

#20
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many CDNs work by retrieving the page themselves, caching it, and re-delivering on request. In that case, if the original page changes, the CDN would automatically change too.

Which would imply that their backend was compromised, not just DNS.

The CDN could have simply refreshed its DNS cache couldn't it? That would mean it loaded the files from somewhere else.
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