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I Was Arrested for Learning a Foreign Language. Today, I Have Some Closure

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Re: I Was Arrested for Learning a Foreign Language. Today, I Have Some Closure

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I'm a bit worried about my trip to the US in the spring. I'm going to make a point of having a hair cut, not carrying any suspicious books, cultivate a super submissive nature against authority figures (of which I carry a well-deserved suspicion) and practive my TSA-smile. Shouldn't have to be that way, but I really don't want to give any indication I am anything but White Bread.

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Re: I Was Arrested for Learning a Foreign Language. Today, I Have Some Closure

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post #7

I'm a bit worried about my trip to the US in the spring. I'm going to make a point of having a hair cut, not carrying any suspicious books, cultivate a super submissive nature against authority figures (of which I carry a well-deserved suspicion) and practive my TSA-smile. Shouldn't have to be that way, but I really don't want to give any indication I am anything but White Bread.

Relax. Trust me, you'll do a lot better to not be Mr. Guy Smiley- that would be much more suspicious. Just put on your bored face and do as Romans do.

On the other hand, it would be humorous if you wore a shirt, pants, and underwear with the American Flag on them. It'd make the TSA look extra ridiculous during a strip search, so make that Option B.

Re: I Was Arrested for Learning a Foreign Language. Today, I Have Some Closure

#13
post #7

I'm a bit worried about my trip to the US in the spring. I'm going to make a point of having a hair cut, not carrying any suspicious books, cultivate a super submissive nature against authority figures (of which I carry a well-deserved suspicion) and practive my TSA-smile. Shouldn't have to be that way, but I really don't want to give any indication I am anything but White Bread.

The truth is that millions of people a year travel, and don't have any problems. So you're most likely to be OK.

The worrying part is that you don't know what will be "alerted" on. Flash cards? Pictures of your kids in the bath? You have no idea.

Re: I Was Arrested for Learning a Foreign Language. Today, I Have Some Closure

#14
post #10

Yet another story from american airport. It kind of reminds me soviet countries, where people would get prosecuted for speaking English. On other side author was detained for 5 hours. That is practically rounding error in __ANY__ country. I would argue there are other causes, more worthy money and effort.

> I would argue there are other causes, more worthy money and effort.

Serious question: How many hours does a person have to be detained illegally in the United States for it to warrant money and effort from the ACLU? You appear to have a specific metric for when injustice warrants response and I'm afraid I'm going to have to take you to task about it.

Re: I Was Arrested for Learning a Foreign Language. Today, I Have Some Closure

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post #10

Yet another story from american airport. It kind of reminds me soviet countries, where people would get prosecuted for speaking English. On other side author was detained for 5 hours. That is practically rounding error in __ANY__ country. I would argue there are other causes, more worthy money and effort.

Gotta nip it in the bud before it's too late.

Re: I Was Arrested for Learning a Foreign Language. Today, I Have Some Closure

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> "Do you know who did 9/11?" Taken totally aback, I answered: "Osama Bin Laden." Then she asked me if I knew what language Osama Bin Laden spoke. "Arabic," I replied. "So do you see why these cards are suspicious?" she finished.

As horrific as the situation, I think we can all enjoy the humorous nature of the conversation above. Lack of shame and intelligence is surreal.

Re: I Was Arrested for Learning a Foreign Language. Today, I Have Some Closure

#17
For a moment I thought the title was a Clojure joke.

Anyway, this must be the 10th article I read about the paranoid surveilance system at USA airports. So many bad experiences, it actually makes me fearful of coming to USA, but I'm sure that's the point they want to make.

Re: I Was Arrested for Learning a Foreign Language. Today, I Have Some Closure

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post #10

Yet another story from american airport. It kind of reminds me soviet countries, where people would get prosecuted for speaking English. On other side author was detained for 5 hours. That is practically rounding error in __ANY__ country. I would argue there are other causes, more worthy money and effort.

> On other side author was detained for 5 hours. That is practically rounding error in __ANY__ country.

As someone who was detained for about the same amount of time, under circumstances about as ridiculous as OP's, I take serious issue with this characterization of five hours' illegal detention as "practically a rounding error".

Re: I Was Arrested for Learning a Foreign Language. Today, I Have Some Closure

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post #2

"Five years ago, the Philadelphia police thought that carrying Arabic-language flashcards was enough to warrant the arrest of an innocent traveler." From a norwegian standpoint, where police are not allowed to wear guns, it's fascinating to see how the answer to security problems is more police, harder prison sentences and more violence. What about increasing happiness? In northern Ireland they eventually got rid of…

I don't know that it's worthwhile to compare small countries with ethnically homogenous populations, homogenous communities, different social values, and citizens with reduced access to weaponry to a large, ethnically diverse nation, with diverse and segregated communities, with different social values and history, and citizens with greater access to firearms.
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