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"Not as socially, ethnically or culturally diverse as many other tech hubs." Chicago has world class museums, music venues, restaurants and ethnic enclaves like Ukrainian Village, Maxwell St., Devon, Pilsen.. and you mean to tell me there's more diversity up in the bay area? LOL
Your chances of seeing multi-ethnic couples, kids and neighborhoods is 10X in the Bay Area than Chicago. (And yes, I've lived in both)
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Re: $1.6B in funding and $7B in exits: Chicago tech just had its best year ever
#12Chicago's a great city, and I've spent a lot of time there. But.... - It's cold. - The academic environment itself is better in general business. Two top MBA programs, but the best engineering school is far down state. - It has winter. - The ecosystem supports growth, but not hypergrowth. Companies like BaseCRM do well starting there, but move to Silicon Valley when it's time to explode. - Snow without mountains - No…
Chicago is almost an even mix of white/black/Hispanic, and has old money patronage that supports cultural amenities that go beyond what you have in SF. And there's no single social group that overwhelms Chicago's culture, like tech is doing to San Francisco and the Bay Area. Last time I got a haircut in Palo Alto, the woman cutting my hair was talking about startups.
The engineering school issue is definitely a fair point.
Re: $1.6B in funding and $7B in exits: Chicago tech just had its best year ever
#13Chicago's a great city, and I've spent a lot of time there. But.... - It's cold. - The academic environment itself is better in general business. Two top MBA programs, but the best engineering school is far down state. - It has winter. - The ecosystem supports growth, but not hypergrowth. Companies like BaseCRM do well starting there, but move to Silicon Valley when it's time to explode. - Snow without mountains - No…
"Not as socially, ethnically or culturally diverse as many other tech hubs." Chicago has world class museums, music venues, restaurants and ethnic enclaves like Ukrainian Village, Maxwell St., Devon, Pilsen.. and you mean to tell me there's more diversity up in the bay area? LOL
Chicago's hypercentralized layout may play a part there, too - the downtown area where tourists go is really just for tourists, and to some extent it's particularly for tourists making weekend trips from the suburbs. With the possible exception of Chinatown, all those great neighborhoods you're mentioning are pretty far off the beaten path for a visitor.
Re: $1.6B in funding and $7B in exits: Chicago tech just had its best year ever
#14"1.6B in funding! Oh boy, robots, life extension, hover cars!"
"Err, no. But you will be targeted with ads about food delivery and HR services much more precisely!"
Re: $1.6B in funding and $7B in exits: Chicago tech just had its best year ever
#15If I weren't a risk averse, cowardly lawyer and was planning on starting my own business, I'd go to Chicago. It's a world class city with tons of programmers and engineer. But it's also much cheaper to live in.
Re: $1.6B in funding and $7B in exits: Chicago tech just had its best year ever
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your chances of seeing multi-ethnic couples, kids and neighborhoods is 10X in the Bay Area than Chicago. (And yes, I've lived in both)
I'd be very curious to see actual statistics around that. This is a belief that is highly subject to selection bias. I myself don't like the Bay Area for my own perception of the lack of diversity there, but again I would not be surprised if that is my bias showing through. (and for instance I live in a neighborhood that has a history of multi-ethnic families that goes back to before that was socially acceptable near…
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#17Re: $1.6B in funding and $7B in exits: Chicago tech just had its best year ever
#18There's two major reasons I say it's so sad and sorry: a total lack of experienced, aggressive VC here, and a massive deficit of university-business partnership.
1. Chicago, sans VC
There's a lot of money in this city. There's also a fair amount of capital being thrown around at start ups and small businesses. However, this place lacks having a couple well established VC firms and proper incubators. Without having direct access to solid investors and capital, many of the companies I've seen here flounder and fail. Their boards are comprised of investors who haven't a single clue about how to advise and lead tech companies.
Additionally, tech as a whole is looked as a cheap commodity in Chicago. The salaries are weak, the benefits are meager, and the chance to grow is basically nonexistent. The overwhelming majority of developers I know are either miserable at large companies (banks, trading firms, healthcare, etc) or are being worked to death with virtually no acceptable future benefit at start ups.
2. Universities vs. Business
Let's look at this for what it is in Chicago: the business community and universities do not work with each other. There are so few partnerships for STEM students that it's basically pointless to go to college in Chicago if you're looking for curricula that is directly informed by industry. There's very little in the way of research being done with the guidance of industry or even an objective to productionize/market any of the work.
The universities themselves are also woefully underwhelming: Loyola, De Paul and UIC are basically glorified baby sitting campuses that blindly churn out subpar programmers. UChicago, on the other hand, has a solid engineering school but doesn't promote it at all. UIUC has one of the best engineering schools in the country, but it's two hours south of the city in the middle of a barren corn field. There's also a massive number of smaller liberal arts colleges in the burbs, but they lack exposure, the funding to recruit STEM students and have fewer still business connections in the city.
/rant; begin pep talk:
There's a lot of potential in Chicago, however (which is part of why I've stayed here). All it takes is an honest, concerted effort to get things rolling. As an example, what's happening in the Merchandise Mart and 1871 is a glimmer of hope of turning things around. It's far from perfect, but it's added a small amount of polish and professionalism to a stumbling tech sector in Chicago.
The article also cites a few large exits - which is nice and all, but it's still yet to be seen what is done with that money. Groupon (who I can't stand) turned their capital into a VC and have been building up start ups in the West Loop for a while. Again, it's not amazing, but it's encouraging to see people invest back into Chicago instead of splitting for the coasts.
The talent that is in Chicago is also top tier. One of the other reasons I've stayed here is because most developers in Chicago are very passionate, dedicated professionals. I've been all over the country and met other developers and interviewed in numerous places. I can honestly say that the caliber of talent here is on par with any other more prominent tech scene. What wins it is soft skills: Chicago is made of people who know how to be people. (New York is close second, though)
I believe that Chicago can be reborn as a tech hub, but it's going to take a lot of time, money and commitment to make it happen. This is going to require a lot from the local and state government, business, and universities. But most importantly, it's going to take people believing that it can happen.
Re: $1.6B in funding and $7B in exits: Chicago tech just had its best year ever
#19Chicago's a great city, and I've spent a lot of time there. But.... - It's cold. - The academic environment itself is better in general business. Two top MBA programs, but the best engineering school is far down state. - It has winter. - The ecosystem supports growth, but not hypergrowth. Companies like BaseCRM do well starting there, but move to Silicon Valley when it's time to explode. - Snow without mountains - No…
Also, if you think the weather is bad here try living Cleveland - 4 month gig there was more than enough for me. I opted to move back during a blizzard.
Re: $1.6B in funding and $7B in exits: Chicago tech just had its best year ever
#20As a Chicagoan and software engineer, here's my honest opinion of tech in Chicago: it's a sad, sorry place to be right now. I grew up in Chicago, went to college in Chicago and work in Chicago. It's been a roller coaster love-hate relationship for 30 years. There's two major reasons I say it's so sad and sorry: a total lack of experienced, aggressive VC here, and a massive deficit of university-business partnership.…