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Re: Ask HN: If an AI had slipped into the world would we notice?

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"AI" in this question could be replaced by: alien, God, singularity, a guy/girl from future or the Terminator.

Given above "options" are mutually exclusive, (e.g. both God and alien are watching at us), it's reasonable to suggest we are just fine. don't worry.

Re: Ask HN: If an AI had slipped into the world would we notice?

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Where would this AI live? Presumably it would use a botnet as it's substrate, I cannot think any other place to slip into. What would it do? Presumably it would survive only if it did not crash or totally corrupt the existing machines so their owners would manage to use their computers just as before. Like other bot networks.

Presumably to maintain any sort of integrity and to leverage non trivial computational resources the bots would need to communicate.

I don't know how discoverable botnets are in general before a massive DOS event or such but I presume the discoverability of this rogue AI was on the same level as a first approximation...

Fun fact: The AI in Dan Simmon's Hyperion live in a substrate that parasitically timeshares unperceptively the brains of people :)

Re: Ask HN: If an AI had slipped into the world would we notice?

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Maybe we would because it will switfly convert all our world into AI substrate. Maybe it will avoid disturbing us in the process, but it is unlikely.

Maybe it will figure out that material world is a boring place and migrate into some other world we can't imagine. In this case we won't notice AIs because they will all leak away.

Re: Ask HN: If an AI had slipped into the world would we notice?

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As an Android/Maps/Chrome user, Google answers all of my questions, tells me what to buy, tells me where to go, and directs and monitors all of my communications. I think the only question left is: did you notice? Edit: Dear immediate downvoter: I'm far more serious about this than you think. How do you define an AI? I'm personally convinced Google qualifies. I once asked Google, "What's that thing where a boat is re…

It's true, but that's still considered "soft AI", I believe. It's highly intelligent and can reason about the world based on a huge database of available information. It can make inferences.

However, it is not "self-aware," by any definition. (Which there are many, I guess.) You might say it is "externally aware," I suppose, but "self-aware" is something else entirely.

It seems to carry with it some implications of self-interest. Not, "what does my user want to know," but "what do I want to do with myself, now that I'm here." This may or may not include instincts towards self-preservation. (Personally I don't think it's inherently implied.)

Re: Ask HN: If an AI had slipped into the world would we notice?

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As an Android/Maps/Chrome user, Google answers all of my questions, tells me what to buy, tells me where to go, and directs and monitors all of my communications. I think the only question left is: did you notice? Edit: Dear immediate downvoter: I'm far more serious about this than you think. How do you define an AI? I'm personally convinced Google qualifies. I once asked Google, "What's that thing where a boat is re…

Well, I think Larry Page stated anecdotally before Google became big that they were actually building an AI (http://www.wired.com/2014/10/future-of-artificial-intelligen...)

Re: Ask HN: If an AI had slipped into the world would we notice?

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post #10

As an Android/Maps/Chrome user, Google answers all of my questions, tells me what to buy, tells me where to go, and directs and monitors all of my communications. I think the only question left is: did you notice? Edit: Dear immediate downvoter: I'm far more serious about this than you think. How do you define an AI? I'm personally convinced Google qualifies. I once asked Google, "What's that thing where a boat is re…

Thanks for reminding me why I'm an iPhone/Apple Maps/Firefox/DuckDuckGo user.
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