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Re: Don't React (Presentation - Use arrows to navigate)

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Post by jcromartie »

F_Catalan wrote: post #7

I have been programming for 30 years, 19 on the Web. I tried to learn Angular and Ember and failed, more than once. Earlier this year I had to prototype a fairly complex single page app and was severely time constrained. I tried React and succeeded beyond both my expectations and those of the client. I am in fact itching for a chance to use it again.

This is precisely my experience. It might have a slightly odd API, but React is an extremely sharp tool to have in your toolbox.

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Post by delinka »

snarfy wrote: post #9

Don't break the web with your presentation framework. Since you do, I cannot take anything you say about web development seriously.

I had to read your comment to understand that there was more content than the title. Indeed I wish people would stop breaking the web is all the myriad ways that they do.

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Post by skrebbel »

Wow, what an aggressive way to promote your own little open source app.

I fully agree: of course React gets a lot wrong, being a pioneer and all. The way JS often goes, I bet one of the many alternatives that pop up actually will turn out like something. But attacking it like that isn't going to get you many friends.

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Post by danr4 »

Okay, so React is not fully reactive. But to say people shouldn't use it because it's not reactive? because it abstracts virtual-dom? because it should be more reactive-friendly?!

Seems like the author was offended they said they are reactive, and made a non-informative presentation, that comes off as a rant because of the rising popularity.

Edit: looking at his Cycle framework's "Why?" on github, besides the part of 'Rendering separated from View' (arguably, you could say that React's render returns React elements which are virtual-DOM elements equiv), you can use the same approach with React.

My current project's component almost never update themselves, except minor UI changes, which is understandable. apart from that, all the data flow comes from above, and my components change according to it. oh and it's immutable (immutable-js another great fb lib).

That's the thing about React, there's quite a diversity in approaches for handling data, events, user actions, etc.

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Post by Kiro »

skrebbel wrote: post #14

Wow, what an aggressive way to promote your own little open source app. I fully agree: of course React gets a lot wrong, being a pioneer and all. The way JS often goes, I bet one of the many alternatives that pop up actually will turn out like something. But attacking it like that isn't going to get you many friends.

> Wow, what an aggressive way to promote your own little open source app.

Yeah, makes me not want to try it. This guy should let someone else handle the marketing.

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Post by kuni-toko-tachi »

People are really missing the point here. Follow staltz on twitter, he really knows his stuff. React is very good, however it missing a few key things that would make it awesome and more consistent - namely compositional event processing. Where React falls short from perfect is by using imperative code for its lifecycle functions.

He's not bashing React, he's educating you about an even better way. If you care about frontend development it would be wise to pay attention.

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