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Bono's quote on why Apple is so successful is perfect

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Re: Bono's quote on why Apple is so successful is perfect

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It's interesting that no-one ever gives credit to Apple's marketing department, because they are very good at their job. We only get these religiose screeds about the designers.

if all Apple made was junk, the best marketing department in the world couldn't get them anywhere near their level of success

Re: Bono's quote on why Apple is so successful is perfect

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It's interesting that no-one ever gives credit to Apple's marketing department, because they are very good at their job. We only get these religiose screeds about the designers.

The products are their own best marketing.

Spoken like a true fanboy.

Re: Bono's quote on why Apple is so successful is perfect

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It's interesting that no-one ever gives credit to Apple's marketing department, because they are very good at their job. We only get these religiose screeds about the designers.

The products are their own best marketing.

At the moment, they are. But Apple has had plenty of flop products, and it was their marketing that kept them in the game and brought them to the fore, along with the iphone.

Re: Bono's quote on why Apple is so successful is perfect

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What the fuck is up with all these clickbait-y articles on Hacker News lately? The title reads like an Elite Daily headline I might see on Facebook, and the actual content is just blogspam rehashing a 2 year old article(http://thenextweb.com/apple/2013/04/18/bono-on-apple-you-can...).

Re: Bono's quote on why Apple is so successful is perfect

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post #11
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It's interesting that no-one ever gives credit to Apple's marketing department, because they are very good at their job. We only get these religiose screeds about the designers.

if all Apple made was junk, the best marketing department in the world couldn't get them anywhere near their level of success

I didn't say the design was bad. I said that no-one talks about their marketing department with this kind of fervour.

The converse is true, by the way - there are plenty of excellent designs that were relegated to the scrapheap because of poor marketing.

Re: Bono's quote on why Apple is so successful is perfect

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I'm not one to buy into Apple exceptionalism, but today when setting up a new Lenovo laptop I was just flabergasted at how terrible the experience is. I opened IE to be hit with both the vendors ad-laden OEM page and MS's own news page which is ad-laden and is full of outrage and low information stories. The laptop is chock full of lenovo apps that get in my way, or worse, cause me issues down the line.

On Android its almost as bad. Every app has big obtrusive apps and they all sample my location without even asking, because according to google, they don't need to ask. This also ignoring the clusterfuck that is OEM customizations.

Apple's biggest strength, imo, is that its not terrible beholden to OEMs (it doesnt have any) or ad networks. It doesn't need to put up ads. It doesn't need to worry about OEM customizations. It doesn't have the federal government on its back from 1990s excesses. It makes its own hardware and its own software. That right there is very liberating. End users are sick of being seen as just eyeballs for ads and third-party software they don't want. There's something shameful about paying hundreds of dollars for a piece of technology only to end up with something covered with ads and hostile to you.

That's Apple's big benefit. They simply don't play that game.

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