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"What is Meteor.js?" Yet another framework that encourages developers to pipe into their shell. Until this changes, I will never give it a second look. http://curlpipesh.tumblr.com/
A couple of things really bother me about Meteor.js. One, the Atomosphere package manager site is insanely slow and buggy. Everything feels like it takes forever to render or rerender. Opening the side menu is a jaggy experience. If performance is that terrible on a super simple list of packages how terrible is it on an actually reactive site? Two, I've never seen an article on meteor that wasn't also an advertisemen…
I've visited Atmosphere from time to time and while performance wasn't as optimal as it could be with a less sophisticated design, it was never what I would call 'jaggy'.
"What is Meteor.js?" Yet another framework that encourages developers to pipe into their shell. Until this changes, I will never give it a second look. http://curlpipesh.tumblr.com/
Could you expand on what piping into your shell is and why it's bad?
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I know a guy who hooked up a Nunchuck to an Arduino, blasted the x/y/z data into MongoDB and used Meteor.js just to show the coordinates on a website, in realtime. He is also the kind of guy who likes to use Node.js and thinks MongoDB "is a database for when you need scalability". Though I must say he hacked it together rather quickly.
I like to use NodeJS too, JavaScript is a great misunderstood language that will handle the vast majority of use cases in the world of CRUD. Honestly, there is something to be said for hacking something together quickly. Prototyping is a great way to explore ideas and find the interesting problems nested in the problem you're trying to solve. I just don't like the evangelism of Meteor because I've never seen anything…
Also, why use it (Node.js) on the server? Its not even that fast, 21th on the techempower Json benchmark, which should be its strongest discipline (all I/O, no computation, emitting Json).
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https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6650987
(Developer @ Meteor). The install script is wrapped in a function, which avoids the problem in the article you linked to.
It's worth trying before you dive too deep in.
Like every web framework, I've run into problems. The simplicity of the server-client reactivity is keeping me in. Its a good idea and the got the funding to keep it going.
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(Developer @ Meteor). The install script is wrapped in a function, which avoids the problem in the article you linked to.
You're still piping untrusted code to sh. Please implement asymmetric cryptographic signature verification (i.e. PGP).
However, if you want greater assurance, Meteor is open source, and easy to run from a git checkout. That seems to solve even more problems than PGP would, though then you should worry about whether you should compile nodejs yourself, and eventually you start eyeing your CPU suspiciously... :-)
(BTW, I think this is why just linking to a HN thread is tricky... it's difficult to know which of the many viewpoints on any thread you share!)