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Smartphone ≠ smart home

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Re: Smartphone ≠ smart home

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I have my previous-generation phone that I don't use anymore, plugged in, connected to wifi, on a shelf. It's an integrated combination of screens, speech recognition, sensors, dedicated devices and smart surfaces, and solves the multi-user issue because it's out in the open on a shelf, and it's not my personal device anymore so I don't have sensitive information on it. The apps are right on the home screen, no passcode, just a direct-to-the-app experience.

You can find a used nexus one, or a moto e, for example, on Swappa for less than $100.

Re: Smartphone ≠ smart home

#12
Smartphone controlled anything never feels great to me. If I have to type in code to unlock my keypad, then wait for an app to launch, just to change the temperature on the thermostat, it's already over.

On a similar note, I wanted to love the Chromecast, but I found the phone to be a terrible controller. Now I use a Roku, which has a great remote. Instead of my girlfriend and I crowding ourselves around a tiny smartphone screen to browse what we're going to watch, we bring up the Netflix app on the Roku and browse on the much more suitable TV.

Re: Smartphone ≠ smart home

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The connected lightbulb example is great. That's IoT as a novelty; it adds few/trivial new capabilities, and it adds a lot of inconvenience.

The flipside of this is IoT as a superpower: finding applications where you can truly use technology to give people a new ability that they didn't have before.

From the personal side, this IoT novelty versus superpower discrepancy is something we thought a lot about as we brought Pantelligent to the world (note: co-founder, https://www.pantelligent.com/ ). Our superpower is to let anyone cook great food, perfectly every time, through science. For us, the smartphone was the perfect user interface, because people are already in the kitchen with smartphone in one hand and spatula in the other! But our integration with the Pebble smartwatch hints at an even better future fit; the Pebble is great for cooking because it's waterproof, and it lets us bring real-time cooking data and instructions right to your wrist, even if your hands are busy.

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The connected lightbulb example is great. That's IoT as a novelty; it adds few/trivial new capabilities, and it adds a lot of inconvenience. The flipside of this is IoT as a superpower: finding applications where you can truly use technology to give people a new ability that they didn't have before. From the personal side, this IoT novelty versus superpower discrepancy is something we thought a lot about as we brough…

Your Kickstarter campaign appears to only show gas burners.

Is your pan useless with an electric element?

Re: Smartphone ≠ smart home

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post #4

What I am missing with all the smart home thing and only the Nest has done right is, that the smartphone is a personal thing. But switch on a light or similar is not a personal thing, if you are living with a family with kids. In particular if you have smaller kids, which don't have a small device and must be able to switch on the light or similar. There are so much levels in terms of a smart home, that a smartphone…

Also, stuff like light doesn't need explicit interaction most of the time.

If there are people in a room and it's dark, the light should go on.

That's the default case I want almost every time for every room.

I don't want to use my smartphone or do any activities for this.

Re: Smartphone ≠ smart home

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I completely agree with the author here, far too much weight has been placed on the smartphone as the control device and UI for everything.

This problem has even spread to Sonos which discontinued the dedicated controller a year or so ago. You now have to use either a phone, tablet, or a full computer to select and choose the music you want to play. Granted their apps are well done but the overall experience is nowhere as responsive as the dedicated controller.

I really do not understand their decision, and would think it would be possible to offer a dedicated controller device these days at a reasonable price that they can make profitable.

Re: Smartphone ≠ smart home

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post #10

You didn't mention the smartwatch at all in your essay. As someone living with one (a pebble) daily for the past year, many of the smarthome needs have been extending into working with the smartwatch, and they don't have the painpoints you describe. Just as an example - for changing volume on my pebble, i do this: 1) long-hold the up-button (i have this binded to an app called 'music boss' ) 2) hit up or down. 3) vol…

You're right. I'm going to talk about them in particular in a follow up post. I wear a pebble as well and I used to use it to control volume. I see smartwatches taking a big place in smart homes. Our issues were that they were not a shared control, you still had to use vision as your primary sensor input, battery life, screen size and problems with connectivity. But I'm confident some of these issues will be resolved…

I like the idea of all of these things working together (phone, Pebble, Flow) to enable people to control their devices with whatever is available.

Re: Smartphone ≠ smart home

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The connected lightbulb example is great. That's IoT as a novelty; it adds few/trivial new capabilities, and it adds a lot of inconvenience. The flipside of this is IoT as a superpower: finding applications where you can truly use technology to give people a new ability that they didn't have before. From the personal side, this IoT novelty versus superpower discrepancy is something we thought a lot about as we brough…

Your Kickstarter campaign appears to only show gas burners. Is your pan useless with an electric element?

Works great with gas & electric stovetops, both resistive coils or flat-top glass. (But not inductive at the moment.)

Half of our team has electric stovetops at home; I think it's particularly a superpower there to know the real cooking surface temperature. Why Pantelligent is especially great on electric stovetops: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRwQgvod2t4

Re: Smartphone ≠ smart home

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This article was a great summarization of the problems we face in our startup.

We actually haven't yet built a smartphone app, even though our customers have asked for it, simply because we don't know a good way to solve these problems.

Do you take the money and build the app anyway, or come back to them with a new and very different solution to what they asked for?

Take this problem, and apply it to an entire building of office tenants, and you can see why this is valuable to them. But it's one thing for us to create a product and make the sale. It's more important to me that they actually use what we sell them.

Re: Smartphone ≠ smart home

#20
I have a really great UX for controlling lighting in my home. So simple my 2 year old understood it when she was just 12 months.

Maybe it's top secret, worthy of some serious VC. But you can probably guess what it is :-)

Now smart phones - she gets those too but she finds it so annoying. Adverts on youtube serve to cause confusion. That action bar on the Android is annoying. She says 'waaah' when the screen is locked. Etc.

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