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Keurig 2.0 DRM Bypass

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Re: Keurig 2.0 DRM Bypass

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What kind of engineers keep building these anti-consumer, anti-competition DRM systems? Someone should call them out publicly, by name. The world doesn't need more DRM systems.

The kind of engineers who get told by their bosses that the new product needs to have DRM so that they can profit from cups. The razor and blades business model looks great to corporate execs.

Re: Keurig 2.0 DRM Bypass

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll start: Keurig

No, I mean the individual engineers.

Maybe they didn't have the option of protesting a design decision from higher up in the company and possibly being out of a job. It may be a crappy thing to do from a consumer perspective, but it's not illegal and arguably not immoral.

Re: Keurig 2.0 DRM Bypass

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post #6

What kind of engineers keep building these anti-consumer, anti-competition DRM systems? Someone should call them out publicly, by name. The world doesn't need more DRM systems.

Speaking as someone who on a variety of occasions has been asked to bake these kinds of restriction into a piece of code, I've tended to follow the restriction to the letter but not the spirit -- yes, this product has "DRM", but yes, any child with a hex editor can disable it in a few minutes.

From this I guess that weak DRM is very often entirely intentional.

As for the kind of engineer that does it, you do. Or more accurately, every engineer who has ever been asked to place their ideals ahead of their paycheck -- and realized jumping ship simply wasn't worth it

Re: Keurig 2.0 DRM Bypass

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It's an amusing video, but note that that same barcode is also what provides coffee/tea-specific brewing parameters to the machine. Using the same barcode for all cups breaks that. (Using a barcode from one coffee on another seems unlikely to seriously affect the results, though.)

If you care enough about the flavor differences, you'll do a whole lot better by not using a kureg in the first place.

Re: Keurig 2.0 DRM Bypass

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post #6

What kind of engineers keep building these anti-consumer, anti-competition DRM systems? Someone should call them out publicly, by name. The world doesn't need more DRM systems.

Yeah! We should find these engineers who might have families and shame them to the world! They'll never work in this town again after they traded in their scruples for a few bucks.

In other news, I'm excited to announce my social dating startup just got acquired for a bunch of money! We'll be deleting all the data and shutting down.

Re: Keurig 2.0 DRM Bypass

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I have owned two Nespresso machines. They were both great for about 8 months. Then no matter how much I 'cleansed' them they made terrible tasting coffee. You can never get the insides completely clean. I suspect the Keurig has a similar problem. I'm now back to my ceramic filter cone (one-time $20 cost) and the coffee has never tasted better.

Re: Keurig 2.0 DRM Bypass

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I have owned two Nespresso machines. They were both great for about 8 months. Then no matter how much I 'cleansed' them they made terrible tasting coffee. You can never get the insides completely clean. I suspect the Keurig has a similar problem. I'm now back to my ceramic filter cone (one-time $20 cost) and the coffee has never tasted better.

You can pry my Breville BES870XL from my cold dead hands.
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