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European Parliament votes in favour of breaking up Google

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Re: European Parliament votes in favour of breaking up Google

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It's pretty clear that this and other their other specifically anti-Google rulings are about protectionism and nothing more.

what are they protecting? Its not as if there are small european based search engines that are failing to compete with Google who would benefit fromt his action.

It's just a ploy to grab headlines and appear relevant, nothing will come of it.

Re: European Parliament votes in favour of breaking up Google

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As someone living in Europe, I think they don't realize that, in a way, Google is bigger than the European Parliament. The citizens of Europe barely take the European Parliament seriously, and there's not much reason for Google to. I happen to be a fan of Duck Duck Go. But I think Google can do without Europe more easily than Europe can do without Google. There's no need to go to extremes, either. Just like Microsoft…

You know collectively Europe is the largest economy in the world? It's not something any company can just shrug away. I believe the goal of this and recent similar decisions is to fracture the internet, allowing for easier law making and rent seeking.

I understand how a fractured internet (In the physical sense, Europe here, US there, no easy interconnection) could lead to easier lives for politicians, but, How does a fractured google make that easier?

I mean, where you had to deal with one entity, now you have to deal with two. It's more possible that one of them doesn't accommodate to your whims.

Re: European Parliament votes in favour of breaking up Google

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What is the point of this vote ? the article says that the European Parliament has no authority to enforce such a break-up. Also Google is not a European company (wasn't it based in the US ?), so what's the point?

They operate in Europe so atthe very least they can affect measures on that subsidiary.

Re: European Parliament votes in favour of breaking up Google

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Why is this story showing on HN, whilst the following one (on the breakup of Google) has more points, and was previously top of the HN front page?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8666921

Interestingly the above story has comments that are far more scathing about Google, whereas the story I am now commenting on, which HN has favoured has mostly arguments in defence of Google. What's going on, PG?

Re: European Parliament votes in favour of breaking up Google

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As someone living in Europe, I think they don't realize that, in a way, Google is bigger than the European Parliament. The citizens of Europe barely take the European Parliament seriously, and there's not much reason for Google to. I happen to be a fan of Duck Duck Go. But I think Google can do without Europe more easily than Europe can do without Google. There's no need to go to extremes, either. Just like Microsoft…

You know collectively Europe is the largest economy in the world? It's not something any company can just shrug away. I believe the goal of this and recent similar decisions is to fracture the internet, allowing for easier law making and rent seeking.

That may be the effect but I doubt that is what is going through the minds of individuals making these decisions. This is just a misguided attempt to give Europe's tech industry a shot but another American company will fill in any space lost by Google.

Re: European Parliament votes in favour of breaking up Google

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Why is this story showing on HN, whilst the following one (on the breakup of Google) has more points, and was previously top of the HN front page? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8666921 Interestingly the above story has comments that are far more scathing about Google, whereas the story I am now commenting on, which HN has favoured has mostly arguments in defence of Google. What's going on, PG?

It can happen due to 1) significant numbers of users flagging the link, 2) the admins demoting it, or 3) it attracting too many comments too quickly ("controversiality"). It seems likely 1 and 3 happened here, but due to a lack of transparency it's always impossible to rule out 2.

Re: European Parliament votes in favour of breaking up Google

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

what are they protecting? Its not as if there are small european based search engines that are failing to compete with Google who would benefit fromt his action.

It's just a ploy to grab headlines and appear relevant, nothing will come of it.

There's a distinct category of "edgy" activist types which have decided Google must be some sort of evil monopoly on the internet by a sheer failure of understanding of why infrastructure business models can be monopolies, whereas "being a popular search engine" really isn't.

Re: European Parliament votes in favour of breaking up Google

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Why is this story showing on HN, whilst the following one (on the breakup of Google) has more points, and was previously top of the HN front page? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8666921 Interestingly the above story has comments that are far more scathing about Google, whereas the story I am now commenting on, which HN has favoured has mostly arguments in defence of Google. What's going on, PG?

The controversial posts brought on a lot of upvotes/downvotes that triggered the flame war detector and buried the post.
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