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Ask HN: Got scammed by startup company, how to find a Delaware lawyer?

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Re: Ask HN: Got scammed by startup company, how to find a Delaware lawyer?

#11

Your money is gone. How much are you owed? The lawyer is going to take 70% of that. Move on and now you are more the wiser.

Around 40k. I'd be happy to give that money to lawyer if he's going to be punished. It's not only about money, it's about time wasted :/.

Re: Ask HN: Got scammed by startup company, how to find a Delaware lawyer?

#13

Telephone numbers for Delaware Office of Labor Law Enforcement -- they should be able to refer you to the appropriate people. http://dia.delawareworks.com/labor-law/ "fake payment references" -- Those are "materially false statements regarding payments" and should be sent to the fraud office of the bank.

Thanks for pointing that, this can help.

Re: Ask HN: Got scammed by startup company, how to find a Delaware lawyer?

#14

Your money is gone. How much are you owed? The lawyer is going to take 70% of that. Move on and now you are more the wiser.

Around 40k. I'd be happy to give that money to lawyer if he's going to be punished. It's not only about money, it's about time wasted :/.

unfortunately a ton more time will be "wasted" dealing with this ..

Re: Ask HN: Got scammed by startup company, how to find a Delaware lawyer?

#15
One thing to keep in mind is that a number of businesses incorporate in Delaware because Delaware law is very protective of owners and their privacy. The corporate veil, as it is called, is very strong in Delaware. For example, in Delaware you are not required to disclose who your corporate officers and directors are. They believe in litigating in front of a judge instead of a jury. They also believe corporate law should follow precedence over litigation.

My point being, you probably won't actually find a lawyer who will take your case. My non-legal, just a guy on HN, opinion is to cut your loss and move on. I'm sorry to hear about this level of dishonesty in a business, but don't throw good money after bad.

Re: Ask HN: Got scammed by startup company, how to find a Delaware lawyer?

#16

One thing to keep in mind is that a number of businesses incorporate in Delaware because Delaware law is very protective of owners and their privacy. The corporate veil, as it is called, is very strong in Delaware. For example, in Delaware you are not required to disclose who your corporate officers and directors are. They believe in litigating in front of a judge instead of a jury. They also believe corporate law sh…

For a moment I decided to move on. Now I got know that some team members now face same issue.

Company still operates and continues "product development" with rest of dedicated team.

Re: Ask HN: Got scammed by startup company, how to find a Delaware lawyer?

#17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreement states that we're independent contractors, but scope of work section tells: As a Software Engineer at %company name% you will be developing applications for the %company name% Platform. Your starting date will be %date%. You will work as a full-time member of the team from %my location%. Full-time member assumed to be working five days in a week (Monday till Friday), 8 hours a day.

Depending on what you did and the conditions of how were supposed to do your work, you may actually be classified as an employee. Even if you were given a 1099 if your in the USA depending on what you actually did or certain requirements from your employer it might have made you a W-2 employee. If you were improperly classified the employer owes back taxes, medicare, social security and a whole range of other payment…

Agree that he's most likely legally an employee, not a contractor, regardless of what the employer insists. Report to every agency you can.
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