San Francisco system font replacement for Yosemite • Hacker News Board

Re: San Francisco system font replacement for Yosemite

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Post by m3andros » Wed, Nov 19, 2014, 1:30 AM UTC

wellsosaurus wrote: post #4

Jgrubb wrote: post #3

I don't hate it, but I'd love to just have Lucida back.

I think you might be able to do that with this: https://github.com/schreiberstein/lucidagrandeyosemite

Thanks, mate! Made my day!

Re: San Francisco system font replacement for Yosemite

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Post by yoctonaut » Wed, Nov 19, 2014, 1:42 AM UTC

gojomo wrote: post #2

For Apple aficionados of a certain vintage, San Francisco will always be the 'ransom font' of the original Mac: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_%28typeface%29

I have to say I was kind of hoping someone had replaced the Helvetica Neue with the old bitmap San Francisco face.

Re: San Francisco system font replacement for Yosemite

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Post by _dps » Wed, Nov 19, 2014, 1:45 AM UTC

Does anyone know the licensing status of the TTFs?

Re: San Francisco system font replacement for Yosemite

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Post by bbx » Wed, Nov 19, 2014, 1:48 AM UTC

Typeface designer Tobias Frere-Jones' opinion about Helvetica in Yosemite: http://www.fastcodesign.com/3031432/why-apples-new-font-wont...

It echoes Erik Spiekermann's view as well: Helvetica wasn't designed for small sizes on screen.

http://spiekermann.com/en/helvetica-sucks/

Re: San Francisco system font replacement for Yosemite

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Post by dshankar » Wed, Nov 19, 2014, 2:04 AM UTC

_dps wrote: post #13

Does anyone know the licensing status of the TTFs?

Apple's TOS specifically states they should only be used for development of Watch apps.

Distributing it on Github & using it for non-development purposes (i.e. as a system font) is probably against the TOS, but not sure Apple will care enough to do anything about it.

Re: San Francisco system font replacement for Yosemite

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Post by cmelbye » Wed, Nov 19, 2014, 2:24 AM UTC

oliv__ wrote: post #5

This looks really good. Sleek and friendly at the same time. I just wish there was a way to bring the old dock back, then I might upgrade.

https://www.google.com/#q=old+dock+yosemite

Re: San Francisco system font replacement for Yosemite

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Post by yincrash » Wed, Nov 19, 2014, 2:25 AM UTC

Isn't this against the license for the font? I thought that it was explicitly for the use of designing apple watch ui.

Re: San Francisco system font replacement for Yosemite

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Post by hit8run » Wed, Nov 19, 2014, 2:29 AM UTC

I don't know what some designers today have with these ultra thin fonts. One can use thin font variants but only together with big font-sizes.

Form follows function => Font Function = legibility => don't use too thin fonts in smaller sizes.

Re: San Francisco system font replacement for Yosemite

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Post by mfkp » Wed, Nov 19, 2014, 2:37 AM UTC

Looks like a straight up knockoff of Google's Roboto font: https://twitter.com/jm_denis/status/534802341770186752

Only big difference I can see is the 'Q'.

Re: San Francisco system font replacement for Yosemite

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Post by nwienert » Wed, Nov 19, 2014, 2:43 AM UTC

In chrome 38 it messes up tabs text (they are set too low)