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Re: Source code of Polish electoral voting system?

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Post by q3k »

striking wrote: post #5
desdiv wrote: post #3

Here's a Google Translate of the README.md file: Based on a cursory analysis of the executable file and application development can be concluded that the performance of the Election Calculator entrusted single Studénka, probably working for external contractors. Ms. Agnieszka, I really sympathize, we are with you! Poland is a country in which the fate of thousands of members of the committee rests on the shoulders of…

A "more English" translation could read: Based on a cursory analysis of the executable and application development, it's clear that the act of writing the Election Calculator was entrusted to a single (female) student, who was probably working for external contractors. Ms. Agnieszka, we really sympathize, we are with you! Poland is a country in which the fate of thousands of committee members rests on the shoulders o…

The fact that the programmer is female is mentioned implicitly - the female version of the “programmer” pronoun is used, the fact is not really stated anywhere.

So it should not to taken as „the shoulders of a novice, female programmer” (in which the fact that she is female is stated explicitly and could be used to further put down the person's programming abilities) but as „the shoulders of a novice programmer”.

Re: Source code of Polish electoral voting system?

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Post by abalkan_msft »

jakozaur wrote: post #7

Likely a fake. The company which wrote the system is recruiting just PHP developers, while this is written in C#. Of course this is all speculation. It may be truth and someone reconstruct the original version by decompiling it. e.g.: https://github.com/wybory2014/Kalkulator1/commit/cdff9cb67b8...

Electoral voting system written in PHP. Sounds like a good idea.

Re: Source code of Polish electoral voting system?

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Post by cryptoz »

fleitz wrote: post #6

Leaked? Is the source code not public anyway? I mean generally you'd want to know what method they are using to count votes.

Tens of millions of US voters use closed-source voting machines during our elections. The companies who make the machines are generally a little too friendly with the Republican party (Diebold, Premier Election Systems, or whatever they recently changed their name to).

I'm shocked at how few people care that so many votes are "counted" through Republican-friendly voting computers.

Re: Source code of Polish electoral voting system?

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Post by kornakiewicz »

fleitz wrote: post #6

Leaked? Is the source code not public anyway? I mean generally you'd want to know what method they are using to count votes.

The method is widely known, but last weekend there were election with new system for reporting protocols from electoral commisions etc. and it appears to be quite huge swindle since it's been made in three months before elections and failed as fuck. Finally some of votes needed to be counted in Excel.

Feel free to ask about details, because I'm from Poland and hadn't found any sufficient article about it.

Re: Source code of Polish electoral voting system?

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Post by hdabrows »

Summary of the more interesting comments here[1]: - the ITT (invitation to tender) had 26 pages - questions from the contractors were answered with "this information is not required to define the price/scope of the feature but it has to be implemented anyway" - huge scope (9 modules) + training + administering the system - everything has to be finished in 1.5-2.5 months from when the results of the tender are published

It seems that only a single company has entered the auction for the tender because everyone else could see that the project was destined for failure. The company also allegedly employs three people and pays its programmers around 2000 zł/month (which is very low even by polish standards).

[1] - http://www.poselska.nazwa.pl/wieczorna2/media/system-pkw-do-...

Re: Source code of Polish electoral voting system?

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Post by sarciszewski »

abalkan_msft wrote: post #12
jakozaur wrote: post #7

Likely a fake. The company which wrote the system is recruiting just PHP developers, while this is written in C#. Of course this is all speculation. It may be truth and someone reconstruct the original version by decompiling it. e.g.: https://github.com/wybory2014/Kalkulator1/commit/cdff9cb67b8...

Electoral voting system written in PHP. Sounds like a good idea.

Why not? WordPress runs 23% of the Internet. (WordPress is written in PHP of course.)

Re: Source code of Polish electoral voting system?

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Post by userbinator »

striking wrote: post #5
desdiv wrote: post #3

Here's a Google Translate of the README.md file: Based on a cursory analysis of the executable file and application development can be concluded that the performance of the Election Calculator entrusted single Studénka, probably working for external contractors. Ms. Agnieszka, I really sympathize, we are with you! Poland is a country in which the fate of thousands of members of the committee rests on the shoulders of…

A "more English" translation could read: Based on a cursory analysis of the executable and application development, it's clear that the act of writing the Election Calculator was entrusted to a single (female) student, who was probably working for external contractors. Ms. Agnieszka, we really sympathize, we are with you! Poland is a country in which the fate of thousands of committee members rests on the shoulders o…

To be fair it's a voting system, i.e. a program whose main function is to count, and unless the definition of "novice" these days is not what it used to be, it should be well within the ability of a "novice" programmer to write one.

Re: Source code of Polish electoral voting system?

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Post by vertex-four »

sarciszewski wrote: post #16
abalkan_msft wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Electoral voting system written in PHP. Sounds like a good idea.

Why not? WordPress runs 23% of the Internet. (WordPress is written in PHP of course.)

WordPress is also far from the most secure or correct system in the world.
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