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Police Can Seize and Sell Assets Even When the Owner Broke No Law

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Re: Police Can Seize and Sell Assets Even When the Owner Broke No Law

#11
What kind of training get the police men? Is it police training or training how to be a crook?

There is one saying in the bible -- I don't want to preach, but some wisdom can be even found in old books -- "A man reaps what he sows".

It seems, this state sows crooks.

It worries me, that these things are known now for several years at it seems, but all attempts of change have been blocked.

To differentiate between right and wrong belongs to the building blocks of society -- of all societies. But you can also see in history and in other nations, what the result is, when such building blocks are missing or when they are repeatedly violated. That is something that makes me fear for the US. When they train those people, that shall uphold the differentiation between right and wrong to be wrongdoers, when legislation fails, because there are to many interest groups, when even judges are judging for money .... the way downhill will be steep!

Already today, as others also posted, the trust into officials is rapidly going downhill in society. Broader and broader parts of society disband legal living, because legality is also often only an excuse for wrong doing. The officials give the example and the complete nation goes downhill step for step.

Re: Police Can Seize and Sell Assets Even When the Owner Broke No Law

#14

Similar NYTimes article posted yesterday with a bit more substance: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/10/us/police-use-department-w... I'm not really sure why civil forfeiture places the burden on owners. Kind of defies the logic of innocent until proven guilty.

This should serve us all as a reminder to keep the law enforcement accountable at all times and reject any loophole, regardless of whether it makes their life of catching criminals easier or not.

Any right given to authorities will inevitably be misused, sooner or later.

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The atrocities have been going on for decades, yet suddenly everyone is interested. Any ideas what changed, so that press is paying attention now?

Those particular geese only lay golden eggs until you kill them. My guess is they got greedy and then got attention. It was fine and good when they took PimpDaddy's caddy because drugs, but not so fine when they took his grandma's house too because he parked there for an hour last tuesday.

man you're not even trying with the racial dogwhistles here but it speaks to a deeper truth

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#18
post #3

The atrocities have been going on for decades, yet suddenly everyone is interested. Any ideas what changed, so that press is paying attention now?

From what I've read, the rate of seizure has increased something like 10-fold in the last decade. That's at least part of it.

With the wrong incentives given, it is clear, that those things multiply ... and it is sad, because it also means, that mischief has multiplied in those people that should uphold justice.

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The atrocities have been going on for decades, yet suddenly everyone is interested. Any ideas what changed, so that press is paying attention now?

As @roymurdock posted, the NY Times article has a video of the guy being quite explicit in the "benefits": http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/10/us/police-use-department-w...

Re: Police Can Seize and Sell Assets Even When the Owner Broke No Law

#20
Matt Taibbi has an interesting book out "The Divide: American Injustice in the Age of the Wealth Gap."

There are issues in the US beyond just the seizing of assets, the question is how do we fix it so that everyone can prosper? The idea of the United States is still awesome, but have we as a country ever come close to the ideal? Is it possible to reach the ideal?

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