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Fundable comes to an ugly end

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Re: Fundable comes to an ugly end

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As my cofounder and I are currently finalizing our own incorporation, I look at Fundable's sad situation and think, "Wow. What if that were us? Is there any way we can avoid ever having that kind of situation with a clever bit of legalese?" Unfortunately, I suspect the answer is "no". As soon as you give one partner the ability to eject the other (for whatever reason), you open the door for all sorts of abuse. Beside…

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Re: Fundable comes to an ugly end

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post #9

As my cofounder and I are currently finalizing our own incorporation, I look at Fundable's sad situation and think, "Wow. What if that were us? Is there any way we can avoid ever having that kind of situation with a clever bit of legalese?" Unfortunately, I suspect the answer is "no". As soon as you give one partner the ability to eject the other (for whatever reason), you open the door for all sorts of abuse. Beside…

I agree. Seeing stuff like this is scary. My heart goes out to both parties, as I'm sure it's not pleasant for either of them. Even if the story is 100% accurate, and Helm is just a bad guy, no one who's that rotten is happy. It's a shame.

Money has a funny way of ruining even the best of friendships.

Be careful. Do the right thing. Cover your bases to protect against either of you going crazy.

Re: Fundable comes to an ugly end

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I'm curious if anyone has experience with something like this or know of other situations where a joint venture was owned 50/50 and one side allegedly decided to take their ball and go home? Is there legal recourse either side can take to reclaim ownership and move on?

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Re: Fundable comes to an ugly end

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I am having a total mental block trying to recall the name of the "Donate people money through Twitter" service that was on HN a few times, but I think this is what he meant when he said "Do not take payments lightly."

[Edited to add: Tipjoy. I knew it was T-something but I ran through about 15 combinations of Twit-X before realizing that it was not from that naming convention.]

Re: Fundable comes to an ugly end

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post #9

As my cofounder and I are currently finalizing our own incorporation, I look at Fundable's sad situation and think, "Wow. What if that were us? Is there any way we can avoid ever having that kind of situation with a clever bit of legalese?" Unfortunately, I suspect the answer is "no". As soon as you give one partner the ability to eject the other (for whatever reason), you open the door for all sorts of abuse. Beside…

Yeah, it's why you find a good third party mediator and ask them to be a non-exec or mediator/advisor. It also helps to have the arguments and tantrums early- at least you'll know if you can get over them or not before it's too late :)

Re: Fundable comes to an ugly end

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I have to really ask, "Why is this upvoted so much?" There aren't really lessons in here; it's just bitter drama.

people love a train wreck, + it has the lesson of being careful of who to pick for your cofounder, and about giving second chances to people who screw you over.

I'd like to believe that this site is better than that – that it's not about watching train wrecks. The problem with picking co-founders isn't that people don't know it's important – it's that they ignore it anyway or don't know how to tell. It's about as useful as a surgeon general's warning on cigarettes.

Re: Fundable comes to an ugly end

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post #14

I am having a total mental block trying to recall the name of the "Donate people money through Twitter" service that was on HN a few times, but I think this is what he meant when he said "Do not take payments lightly." [Edited to add: Tipjoy. I knew it was T-something but I ran through about 15 combinations of Twit-X before realizing that it was not from that naming convention.]

They were a YC company, weren't they? Ivan and Abby?

Re: Fundable comes to an ugly end

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  seek legal action against Louis Helm personally 
  should he fail to resolve your payment issues promptly
Well, IANAL, but I don't think that is how it works. The corporation is liable for funds it holds on your behalf. Boy would I be worried if I were Pratt.

Re: Fundable comes to an ugly end

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

people love a train wreck, + it has the lesson of being careful of who to pick for your cofounder, and about giving second chances to people who screw you over.

I'd like to believe that this site is better than that – that it's not about watching train wrecks. The problem with picking co-founders isn't that people don't know it's important – it's that they ignore it anyway or don't know how to tell. It's about as useful as a surgeon general's warning on cigarettes.

Not train wrecks in general, but a very specific train wreck along the same tracks upon which many of us are traveling, or hope to travel.
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